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    can anyone tell me there beliefs please and thanks

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    If the CoG you are reffering to is a splinter group of the late Herbert W Armstrong, run and don't stop running!

    They are a very legalistic, salvation by works plus faith cult that claims to be the only ones to know God's 'truths'.

    Research "Herbert W Armstrong".....bad,bad,bad news.

    Here's a few quotes:

    "[Of] all the religions and all the more than 250 denominations and sects in 'Christianity,' NOT ONE, except the Worldwide Church of God, knows WHO and WHAT God is....what, and why, MAN IS....the TRUTH about the nation Israel....the TRUE GOSPEL Christ proclaimed....what happens in the hereafter....what salvation really is!" "There is ONLY ONE WORK that is preaching the true gospel..." Herbert W. Armstrong - Founder of Worldwide Church of God

    "God began revealing MALACHI'S MESSAGE--the prophesied "little book"--to ME... It was all prophesied in detail!" "At this time, the Philadelphia Church of God is the only church preventing God’s revealed truth from being completely destroyed!" Gerald Flurry - Founder of Philadelphia Church of God:

    LCOG is the true Church of God which teaches and practices Apostolic Christianity!" Roderick C. Meredith: Founder of Living Church of God:

    "This Church is the only place Christ’s government can be found." "...the only place He's doing the Work." David C. Pack - Founder of The Restored Church of God:
    God "restored His Church through Joseph Smith." Joseph Smith - Founder of Mormons

    “There is one church! There is one God. There is one kingdom of God and this is it!" International Church of Christ

    "Since we keep all ten Commandments and have Ellen White as our prophet, we Seventh-day Adventists are The Remnant Church!" Seventh Day Adventists

    “The True Jesus Church is the true church restored by God through the Holy Spirit of the latter rain. She is the revival of the apostolic church in the end times.” True Jesus Church

    "I said that I had been in conference with the Great Master Workman, the Lord himself, and I have secret information through the Holy Spirit and guidance in respect to what the Bible says..." Charles Taze Russell - Founder of Jehovah's Witnesses

    "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity." Brigham Young - Mormons

    "There is only one organization on earth today fulfilling the righteous requirements outlined in this commission from the Lord. The Society, represented by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is the only one." "We should not expect more than one organization doing this work." Joseph F. Rutherford - Jehovah's Witnesses

    "In my books, the truth is stated, barricaded by a 'Thus saith the Lord.' The Holy Spirit traced these truths upon my heart and mind as indelibly as the law was traced by the finger of God upon the tables of stone."Ellen G. White-Seventh day Adventism

    "We are the only people who truly understand the heart of Jesus, and the hope of Jesus." Sun Myung Moon - Moonies

    "My teachings are the final revelation of God for Mankind." Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science

    "Start learning the true way to Salvation. This way is not taught in the world by any organization, other than the one established by Yahweh--The House of Yahweh". ... Buffalo Bill Hawkins - House of Yahweh

    "I am God's end-time prophet to America!" R. G. (Ralph) Stair - Overcomer Ministries
    “Outside the true organized Church of God [CGCM] the whole truth has never been found and neither will ever be found outside of it."John Holdeman - Church of God in Christ, Mennonite:
    Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes. God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure. Ephesians 1:4-5

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    Post Sad very sad stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn S View Post
    If the CoG you are reffering to is a splinter group of the late Herbert W Armstrong, run and don't stop running!

    They are a very legalistic, salvation by works plus faith cult that claims to be the only ones to know God's 'truths'.

    Research "Herbert W Armstrong".....bad,bad,bad news.

    Here's a few quotes:

    "[Of] all the religions and all the more than 250 denominations and sects in 'Christianity,' NOT ONE, except the Worldwide Church of God, knows WHO and WHAT God is....what, and why, MAN IS....the TRUTH about the nation Israel....the TRUE GOSPEL Christ proclaimed....what happens in the hereafter....what salvation really is!" "There is ONLY ONE WORK that is preaching the true gospel..." Herbert W. Armstrong - Founder of Worldwide Church of God

    "God began revealing MALACHI'S MESSAGE--the prophesied "little book"--to ME... It was all prophesied in detail!" "At this time, the Philadelphia Church of God is the only church preventing God’s revealed truth from being completely destroyed!" Gerald Flurry - Founder of Philadelphia Church of God:

    LCOG is the true Church of God which teaches and practices Apostolic Christianity!" Roderick C. Meredith: Founder of Living Church of God:

    "This Church is the only place Christ’s government can be found." "...the only place He's doing the Work." David C. Pack - Founder of The Restored Church of God:
    God "restored His Church through Joseph Smith." Joseph Smith - Founder of Mormons

    “There is one church! There is one God. There is one kingdom of God and this is it!" International Church of Christ

    "Since we keep all ten Commandments and have Ellen White as our prophet, we Seventh-day Adventists are The Remnant Church!" Seventh Day Adventists

    “The True Jesus Church is the true church restored by God through the Holy Spirit of the latter rain. She is the revival of the apostolic church in the end times.” True Jesus Church

    "I said that I had been in conference with the Great Master Workman, the Lord himself, and I have secret information through the Holy Spirit and guidance in respect to what the Bible says..." Charles Taze Russell - Founder of Jehovah's Witnesses

    "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity." Brigham Young - Mormons

    "There is only one organization on earth today fulfilling the righteous requirements outlined in this commission from the Lord. The Society, represented by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is the only one." "We should not expect more than one organization doing this work." Joseph F. Rutherford - Jehovah's Witnesses

    "In my books, the truth is stated, barricaded by a 'Thus saith the Lord.' The Holy Spirit traced these truths upon my heart and mind as indelibly as the law was traced by the finger of God upon the tables of stone."Ellen G. White-Seventh day Adventism

    "We are the only people who truly understand the heart of Jesus, and the hope of Jesus." Sun Myung Moon - Moonies

    "My teachings are the final revelation of God for Mankind." Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science

    "Start learning the true way to Salvation. This way is not taught in the world by any organization, other than the one established by Yahweh--The House of Yahweh". ... Buffalo Bill Hawkins - House of Yahweh

    "I am God's end-time prophet to America!" R. G. (Ralph) Stair - Overcomer Ministries
    “Outside the true organized Church of God [CGCM] the whole truth has never been found and neither will ever be found outside of it."John Holdeman - Church of God in Christ, Mennonite:
    yep,sad stuff.
    Those CULTS and many more like them ALL wash your brain and suck your money like vacuum cleaners,just like the Rcc and Islam.
    Sons of Beliar.

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    My mom and sister are members of a local church of God.They believe they can lose their salvation,some speak in "tongue,s" and the church of God is" the" church because of the name they bear.They also have footwashing which if done right I feel should be in my(baptist)church.I think they are saved by the blood like we are but are off in some basic doctrines that don,t affect their salvation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24thchance View Post
    My mom and sister are members of a local church of God.They believe they can lose their salvation,some speak in "tongue,s" and the church of God is" the" church because of the name they bear.They also have footwashing which if done right I feel should be in my(baptist)church.I think they are saved by the blood like we are but are off in some basic doctrines that don,t affect their salvation.
    thank you for your input on this,could you explain what basic doctrines please and thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonniejean View Post
    can anyone tell me there beliefs please and thanks
    Can you be more specific about which Church of God you're asking about? There are multiple denominations that go by this name.

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    Kinda of an aside question, but don't they also poision drinking and snake handeling? There are some churches in Alabama that do that up close to where my step dad is, but I don't remember the denom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn S View Post
    If the CoG you are reffering to is a splinter group of the late Herbert W Armstrong, run and don't stop running!

    They are a very legalistic, salvation by works plus faith cult that claims to be the only ones to know God's 'truths'.

    Research "Herbert W Armstrong".....bad,bad,bad news.

    Here's a few quotes:

    "[Of] all the religions and all the more than 250 denominations and sects in 'Christianity,' NOT ONE, except the Worldwide Church of God, knows WHO and WHAT God is....what, and why, MAN IS....the TRUTH about the nation Israel....the TRUE GOSPEL Christ proclaimed....what happens in the hereafter....what salvation really is!" "There is ONLY ONE WORK that is preaching the true gospel..." Herbert W. Armstrong - Founder of Worldwide Church of God

    "God began revealing MALACHI'S MESSAGE--the prophesied "little book"--to ME... It was all prophesied in detail!" "At this time, the Philadelphia Church of God is the only church preventing God’s revealed truth from being completely destroyed!" Gerald Flurry - Founder of Philadelphia Church of God:

    LCOG is the true Church of God which teaches and practices Apostolic Christianity!" Roderick C. Meredith: Founder of Living Church of God:

    "This Church is the only place Christ’s government can be found." "...the only place He's doing the Work." David C. Pack - Founder of The Restored Church of God:
    God "restored His Church through Joseph Smith." Joseph Smith - Founder of Mormons

    “There is one church! There is one God. There is one kingdom of God and this is it!" International Church of Christ

    "Since we keep all ten Commandments and have Ellen White as our prophet, we Seventh-day Adventists are The Remnant Church!" Seventh Day Adventists

    “The True Jesus Church is the true church restored by God through the Holy Spirit of the latter rain. She is the revival of the apostolic church in the end times.” True Jesus Church

    "I said that I had been in conference with the Great Master Workman, the Lord himself, and I have secret information through the Holy Spirit and guidance in respect to what the Bible says..." Charles Taze Russell - Founder of Jehovah's Witnesses

    "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity." Brigham Young - Mormons

    "There is only one organization on earth today fulfilling the righteous requirements outlined in this commission from the Lord. The Society, represented by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is the only one." "We should not expect more than one organization doing this work." Joseph F. Rutherford - Jehovah's Witnesses

    "In my books, the truth is stated, barricaded by a 'Thus saith the Lord.' The Holy Spirit traced these truths upon my heart and mind as indelibly as the law was traced by the finger of God upon the tables of stone."Ellen G. White-Seventh day Adventism

    "We are the only people who truly understand the heart of Jesus, and the hope of Jesus." Sun Myung Moon - Moonies

    "My teachings are the final revelation of God for Mankind." Mary Baker Eddy - Christian Science

    "Start learning the true way to Salvation. This way is not taught in the world by any organization, other than the one established by Yahweh--The House of Yahweh". ... Buffalo Bill Hawkins - House of Yahweh

    "I am God's end-time prophet to America!" R. G. (Ralph) Stair - Overcomer Ministries
    “Outside the true organized Church of God [CGCM] the whole truth has never been found and neither will ever be found outside of it."John Holdeman - Church of God in Christ, Mennonite:

    I am actually a Church of Christ member - but I don't think it is called The International Church of Christ. It has been around for very very long time and very closely aligned with the Baptist Church. We certainly don't say we are the only church that "has it right". I think our official name is "Churches of Christ - Australia". It bugs me there is some other organisation with a very like name? Mishk.
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    There are many churches out there with the same or similar names but they do not all belong to the same group. For this reason, it is best to provide more than just the name when asking about a church. Saves confusion and error.
    Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right. - Charles H. Spurgeon

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    This is not a cult: http://www.churchofgod.org/

    Careful how you ask a question. There are multiple CoG denoms, just like there are multiple Presbyterians, Baptists, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anddra View Post
    There are many churches out there with the same or similar names but they do not all belong to the same group. For this reason, it is best to provide more than just the name when asking about a church. Saves confusion and error.
    i am sorry guess i should of made myself clearer,but it is simply listed as only the name Church of God,under the modern cults and demons in the forum,i can see what you mean as confusion and error again i am sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonniejean View Post
    i am sorry guess i should of made myself clearer,but it is simply listed as only the name Church of God,under the modern cults and demons in the forum,i can see what you mean as confusion and error again i am sorry
    No apology necessary, bonniejean.
    Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right. - Charles H. Spurgeon

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina_guy View Post
    This is not a cult: http://www.churchofgod.org/

    Careful how you ask a question. There are multiple CoG denoms, just like there are multiple Presbyterians, Baptists, etc.

    Hi Carolina_guy,

    I agree that we should be careful not to lump all of them together as cults.
    Last edited by 1ofmanybornagain; September 23rd, 2009 at 12:21 PM. Reason: spelling mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina_guy View Post
    This is not a cult: http://www.churchofgod.org/

    Careful how you ask a question. There are multiple CoG denoms, just like there are multiple Presbyterians, Baptists, etc.


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    can anyone tell me there beliefs please and thanks

    Justin...I believe we're ok on the question here It still reflects on the answers given. We love all these born-agains as brothers and sisters. Period. Our differences.... some. Sorry Bonniejean for this straw hat, instead of a real Texan one. Ask a question on Baptists...I attended three for 34 years. Learned in one, that we could clap and raise our hands.Amen

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    Default Any one ever heard of Herbert W. Armstrong??

    I really like this book I'm reading now titled the Icredible Human Potential by Herbert W. Armstrong. The subtitle states this book is based on the real gospel message of Jesus Christ of how the missing dimension was witheld, and the whole world deceived. Anyone ever read this book?? He's from the Phildelphia church of GOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by engaged mom View Post
    I really like this book I'm reading now titled the Icredible Human Potential by Herbert W. Armstrong. The subtitle states this book is based on the real gospel message of Jesus Christ of how the missing dimension was witheld, and the whole world deceived. Anyone ever read this book?? He's from the Phildelphia church of GOD.
    I've heard of him. I would never read anything written by him and I wouldn't place any stock in the nonsense he spouts. Just my .02 worth. You might want to google him or check our Apostasy forum to see if there's anything there about him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jadeeyes View Post
    I've heard of him. I would never read anything written by him and I wouldn't place any stock in the nonsense he spouts. Just my .02 worth. You might want to google him or check our Apostasy forum to see if there's anything there about him.
    thank you!!
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    No, never heard of him; I'm not that old. Well OK I am that old but I don't want to admit it today. But yes, he is a major fruitcake who thinks he is the only true apostle of Christ for this age.

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    Exclamation Herbert armstrong

    Good evening fellow Jesus lovers!! I'm a new babe in Christ so hopefully every one can understand my desire to learn as much about the Lord as I can, the right way... Any who, I'm reding this book on The Incrediable Human Potential and even though some of the statment that Mr. Armstrong makes has bible scriptures qouted behind them, I know that the word og God can be taking out of content and twisted into wrong interpretations that new babe like me would just fall for. I order paphets and books from Daily Bread, Tommorow's world and etc. But its good to have different prospectives of what I may be reading. Any help is appreciated and pray for me that in my persuit for Jesus that I'll be deemed worthy of the Rapture.
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    Read this on Armstrong:

    http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/armstrong.htm

    I personally would not read anything put out by Armstrong. I would burn the book so no one else could read it either.

    Stick with the Bible and you can't go wrong
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