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    Who are the False Christians?

    So, I need a refresher because I'm not sure anymore which ones are actually bad if any...

    Are Mormons really Not Saved?

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses going to hell?

    Are Catholics false Christians?

    The reason I ask is because I'm really Catholic, but consider myself a Catholic-Christian.
    My family is completely Catholic, but Do believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior.
    They get angry when I talk about end times, and call me loony...

    Which Christians are false ones and which aren't (I don't remember if there are any others then the ones I mentioned)?

    John 15:18-19
    If the world hates you, know that it hated Me before it hated you.
    If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

    I was Hated, Unloved, Mocked, In Pain, Struggling and Suffering the World; But in Heaven I am Loved, Cheerful, Joyous, Mighty, and Welcomed into God's Arms...

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    Christ's Church is made up of blood-bought believers who sit in many different congregations and those who attend no church building at all. He is the Shephard and knows His sheep wherever they are. Are there those in the world that are Morman, Catholic, etc. that belong to Christ...yes, I believe so. Is there much unbiblical teaching in their services...yes, definitely. Many have let a human "leader" replace the Bible and God's direct teaching to us and are not discerning to the teaching they are receiving. They need to dust their Bibles off and read, read, read, and ask the Lord to open their eyes to what He wants them to see and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfTheFather View Post
    So, I need a refresher because I'm not sure anymore which ones are actually bad if any...

    Are Mormons really Not Saved?

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses going to hell?

    Are Catholics false Christians?

    The reason I ask is because I'm really Catholic, but consider myself a Catholic-Christian.
    My family is completely Catholic, but Do believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior.
    They get angry when I talk about end times, and call me loony...

    Which Christians are false ones and which aren't (I don't remember if there are any others then the ones I mentioned)?
    Hi,
    Mormons DENY that JESUS is GOD
    JW's DENY that JESUS is GOD
    Rcc believe that JESUS is GOD but propone salvation by WORKS and many other heresy.....

    In Italy ,where I come from originally,the majority of people are Rcc by birth...ok?
    When I testified to them that I was a "christian" they would always answer me:"me too,what do you think I am a beast???"
    because over there "christian" means human being,so do you get the picture?
    btw,asap I became born again i felt compelled to leave the RCC totally and immediately....the Jesus they worship in the " host" and the "tabernacle on the altar" is DEFINITELY NOT the JESUS of THE BIBLE.....so in christian love and respect I am asking you if you still go to mass ,confession,novenas etc....just curious....ok?
    John 14

    1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

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    No, none of us do that or go to stuff like that.
    We basically go to church sometimes to attend and pray, that's it.
    I don't think they truly believe in works as a salvation, but they do not think of Jesus' literal reign or our literal resurrection...

    John 15:18-19
    If the world hates you, know that it hated Me before it hated you.
    If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

    I was Hated, Unloved, Mocked, In Pain, Struggling and Suffering the World; But in Heaven I am Loved, Cheerful, Joyous, Mighty, and Welcomed into God's Arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfTheFather View Post
    No, none of us do that or go to stuff like that.
    We basically go to church sometimes to attend and pray, that's it.
    I don't think they truly believe in works as a salvation, but they do not think of Jesus' literal reign or our literal resurrection...
    Thanks for answering...I am glad that you don't do as the Rcc do...by the way,if you want to know RCC catechism and doctrines,please visit David Hunt....


    http://www.thebereancall.org/node/4979


    Shalom
    John 14

    1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfTheFather View Post
    So, I need a refresher because I'm not sure anymore which ones are actually bad if any...

    Are Mormons really Not Saved?

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses going to hell?

    Are Catholics false Christians?

    The reason I ask is because I'm really Catholic, but consider myself a Catholic-Christian.
    My family is completely Catholic, but Do believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior.
    They get angry when I talk about end times, and call me loony...

    Which Christians are false ones and which aren't (I don't remember if there are any others then the ones I mentioned)?
    Warrior, I'm glad that you revealed what you are concerned about. First of all, John 14:6 tells us that Jesus alone is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the FAther except through HIm.

    Jesus paid it all. He is completely God, and completely man. He came to satisfy the requirements of a just and holy God for the sin of mankind. Only He could do it as He alone is perfect.

    Many religions talk about "Jesus." They claim to know Him. But they do not believe in the same Jesus as the Jesus of the Bible. Even the Roman Catholic Church has a different Jesus. Their Jesus doesn't save them. They have added works to salvation, and even then, no Catholic has the assurance that their sins have been forgiven. Every time the Mass is celebrated they crucify Jesus all over again. The Bible said that Jesus spoke the words "It is finished" just before He gave up His Spirit. There are numerous pagan rituals and beliefs within Roman Catholicism.

    If you are truly a believer you must leave that church. It is apostate. All who die within false religions will go to Hell. God will judge their hearts and if they are not bought by the blood of the Lamb they will be cast away from Him for eternity.

    Please consider this carefully. Ask God to show you. Read the gospel of John over and over again. But please, above all else, leave the Catholic Church and find a bible teaching church where you can be fed and fellowship with like minded believers.

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    Anyone who says that Jesus Christ is Lord and asks Him to save their soul will go to Heaven or be Raptured.

    Everyone who turns to any other teaching than: Jesus is the only way to Heaven and rose from the dead from their sins, and that Jesus is God, will go to Hell, or experience the tribulation then go to Hell.
    The first time He will come for us. The next time, He will come with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Perfect, But Forgiven View Post
    Anyone who says that Jesus Christ is Lord and asks Him to save their soul will go to Heaven or be Raptured.

    Everyone who turns to any other teaching than: Jesus is the only way to Heaven and rose from the dead from their sins, and that Jesus is God, will go to Hell, or experience the tribulation then go to Hell.
    Be careful saying that all who call Jesus Lord are safe. The Word says not all who say Lord will enter. Being saved is more than just knowledge. Even the demons know, and tremble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherished View Post
    Be careful saying that all who call Jesus Lord are safe. The Word says not all who say Lord will enter. Being saved is more than just knowledge. Even the demons know, and tremble!
    VERY TRUE! I didn't think of that.

    The Word also calls for repentance and a change of thinking. There is more to being a Christian than the label. Thanks for that reminder.
    The first time He will come for us. The next time, He will come with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Perfect, But Forgiven View Post
    VERY TRUE! I didn't think of that.

    The Word also calls for repentance and a change of thinking. There is more to being a Christian than the label. Thanks for that reminder.

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    As much as I like the mormons that I know, they have some beliefs that are, well just out right blasphemous. They teach that God was once a man who attained Godhood, and that he fathered Jesus, Lucifer and all the angels with many celestial wives.
    They believe that all Mormons become gods themselves when they die, and they believe that every Mormon will thus get to be a god over another world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Perfect, But Forgiven View Post
    VERY TRUE! I didn't think of that.

    The Word also calls for repentance and a change of thinking. There is more to being a Christian than the label. Thanks for that reminder.
    I love you best today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dichotomy View Post
    As much as I like the mormons that I know, they have some beliefs that are, well just out right blasphemous. They teach that God was once a man who attained Godhood, and that he fathered Jesus, Lucifer and all the angels with many celestial wives.
    They believe that all Mormons become gods themselves when they die, and they believe that every Mormon will thus get to be a god over another world.

    Plus, you gotta wear special undies to church. I never trust any church that dictates my underpinnings!
    I love you best today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfTheFather View Post
    So, I need a refresher because I'm not sure anymore which ones are actually bad if any...

    Are Mormons really Not Saved?

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses going to hell?

    Are Catholics false Christians?

    The reason I ask is because I'm really Catholic, but consider myself a Catholic-Christian.
    My family is completely Catholic, but Do believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior.
    They get angry when I talk about end times, and call me loony...

    Which Christians are false ones and which aren't (I don't remember if there are any others then the ones I mentioned)?
    Mormonism has a person named Jesus in their religion but their Jesus is not
    the Jesus of the Bible, same with Jehovah Witnesses (Search the forums regarding these religions). Catholicism is
    debatable whether or not the Jesus they teach of is the same as the Bible,
    the reason I say this is because the Jesus they teach of does not fully atone
    for our sins (which then leads to a works base salvation).

    If there is a Born Again Christian in any false religion God will bring them out of
    it. What it all comes down to is whether or not one has repented and put
    their full trust and faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. While I agree that
    there are true Christian in false religion I do not believe that God will let them
    sit there in unrepentant sin.

    Also, Religion does not save, only the true Jesus as told of in the Bible can bring
    one salvation because he is the only one that died for our sins. So whether one calls
    there selves Mormon, JW, Catholic, Muslim, Satanist etc doesn't mean they can't be
    saved and are going to Hell.
    Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every
    eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him:
    and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
    Even so, Amen.

  15. Mormons put their trust in the Jesus of their belief
    How do you expect a professing Mormon to be saved when they claim
    Jesus to be the spirit brother of Lucifer ??
    It is a cult. People engaging in Mormonism are deceived and let alone they decieve
    others too.
    Their Bible has an added testament called ' The Book of Mormon '
    Incidentally in old chineese the word "mormo" means the gates of hell.

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    Many religions believe in "Jesus," but he is not the Jesus, Son of God, Word made flesh, who died for our sins, that is in the Bible. Different Jesus, no salvation....

    There is a vast difference!

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    Anyone trusting in a false Gospel will not be saved.

    For Roman Catholics, they must trust in the sufficiency of the atonement and resurrection of Jesus Christ to pay their entire sin debt.

    They must trust that the work of atonement is complete and finished in the work of Jesus Christ.

    They must trust that Jesus is unique in His sinlessness which makes Him the only mediator between God and man.

    They must trust that the only righteousness that will allow them to stand in the presence of God is that of Jesus Christ, not their own. In God's sight, they have no righteousnes of their own that aids in salvation and never will.

    They must come directly to Jesus with empty hands and ask Him alone for the precious gift of salvation that is available nowhere else. The only thing they contribute to the exchange with Jesus is admittance of their sin and agreement with God's assessment of it.

    They must understand that every sinful thought, word and deed condemn them to death in God's eyes, not just the man-made category of "mortal" sin. And it is from all of these that we repent and turn.

    They must let go of the idea that their church membership, their infant baptism, their good works, their sacraments and their personal sacrifices have any part in making them acceptable to God.

    To repent for Catholics means to let go of all of those things they have been taught that bring them grace and righteousness administered through the Roman Catholic Church, and put ALL their trust in the risen, living God, Jesus Christ. Grace is by defintion unmerited favor, not earned - it is a gift of God by His choice.

    To repent for Catholics means turning from their blasphemy, i.e. prayer to created beings - the Catholic Mary, the saints etc., attributing the traits of omniscience and omnipresence to anyone other than God Himself.

    To repent for Catholic means turning from their participation in the ongoing sacrifice of the Mass which denies the completed and sufficient work of atoning for sin by Jesus Christ.

    To repent for Catholics means turning from their idolatry i.e. of adoration of the man- made Eucharistic host as God, of veneration to the Catholic Mary in any form especially of praying the rosary to the Catholic Mary, or participating in any kind of prayer and trust in any saint of any kind for any protection of any kind.

    To repent for Catholics means trusting the bible as their authority, not men in any way, shape or form, i.e. priests, church hierarchy or their unbiblical traditions.

    The true gospel is trusting by faith alone, by God's grace alone in what Jesus already completed on our behalf. Jesus paid our sin debt in full and is able to completely reconcile us to the Father. It is our sin that has separated us from God and we have to admit that. Salvation is a work of God alone. When we realize we have no other hope, we turn from that sin, ask Jesus in faith to save us, and HIS Righteousness is imparted to us as a downpayment on eternal life. It is HIS Righteousness that begins the eternal transformation in the form of His Holy Spirit. Nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dichotomy View Post
    As much as I like the mormons that I know, they have some beliefs that are, well just out right blasphemous. They teach that God was once a man who attained Godhood, and that he fathered Jesus, Lucifer and all the angels with many celestial wives.
    They believe that all Mormons become gods themselves when they die, and they believe that every Mormon will thus get to be a god over another world.
    They also believe Jesus and Satan are Spirit Brother's and that you get to Heaven by your works/beng good. After that Jesus kicks in and picks up the slack. There is no peace in Mormonism because I have heard many say they are not assured of their salvation and there always seems to be uncertainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfTheFather View Post
    So, I need a refresher because I'm not sure anymore which ones are actually bad if any...

    Are Mormons really Not Saved?

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses going to hell?

    Are Catholics false Christians?

    The reason I ask is because I'm really Catholic, but consider myself a Catholic-Christian.
    My family is completely Catholic, but Do believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior.
    They get angry when I talk about end times, and call me loony...

    Which Christians are false ones and which aren't (I don't remember if there are any others then the ones I mentioned)?
    you need to bail out of the catholic church and join a real honest Bible believing church.as long as they believe in Jesus alone for their salvation and not Jesus plus works,Jesus plus Mary,Jesus plus traditions and ect.
    In God I Trust


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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfTheFather View Post
    Which Christians are false ones and which aren't (I don't remember if there are any others then the ones I mentioned)?
    Some hear the word and receive it with joy, and it is snatched away from them.

    Some hear the word and receive it with joy, and trouble and persecutions come, and they fall away.

    Some hear the word and receive it with joy, but the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of money choke it out, they are unfruitful.

    Some hear the word and receive it with joy, and bear fruit.
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    Don't panic! Just be Rapture Ready.

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    Philippians 4:8
    Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

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