Pope says difficult to understand why God chose him.

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict said on Saturday he still had difficulty understanding why God had chosen him to lead the Catholic Church worldwide, recalling his isolated upbringing in a rural community of southern Germany.

The 82-year-old pontiff, whose past in wartime Germany once again came under scrutiny during a visit to Israel this month, said that as a boy he never dreamed of becoming pope. "I must say that even today I have difficulty in understanding how the Lord was able to think of me, choose me for this mission," Benedict told a meeting with thousands of children from the Church's Missionary Childhood society.

[KaiafromBergen]

He needs to wake up and smell the coffee, God did not choose him . . .

[Rapture Dave]

Because God can use evil people to accomplish His purpose. If the pope wants to divide Israel, then God is using him to fulfill prophecy.

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IMHO I don't think the Lord selected you Jojo to do what you doing... Don't forget, the Lord called your church the harlot, not exactly the words I'd describe as being uplifting.

He allowed you and your false church to play a part in fulfilling prophecy, and boy oh boy, I would not wanna be in your or your successors shoes come the tribulation and worse, the Great Tribulation...

[Kate]

Him saying that proves he lacks understanding of the word of G_d doesn't it?

People chose him, not G_d, G_d allows us to make decisions. Free will is exactly what it is, we are warned as to what direction we should go in.

ing for the pope, he's a child of G_d like the rest of us.

[His Bride]

Unfortunately, anyone in positions of authority are appointed by God.

Romans 13

However, no Christian believes that his position is godly. We only believe that he has been appointed for this time in history, just like all other people in authority, to serve God's purposes and for His glory.

Baffling to me too!

[Kate]

Unfortunately, anyone in positions of authority are appointed by God.

Romans 13

However, no Christian believes that his position is godly. We only believe that he has been appointed for this time in history, just like all other people in authority, to serve God's purposes and for His glory.

Baffling to me too!

I stand corrected. Thank you HB.

[His Bride]

I stand corrected. Thank you HB.

No problem.

We tend to forget or choose to not want to believe that sometimes, in light of some of the leaders that the world has experienced. And yet, God tells us differently. Our human thinking prevents us from seeing all things clearly. It's a good thing we have scripture!

He is working all things toward His glory and His goal. The political and religious leaders of our day all work into His plan, just as in the past.

[harvest]

No problem.

We tend to forget or choose to not want to believe that sometimes, in light of some of the leaders that the world has experienced. And yet, God tells us differently. Our human thinking prevents us from seeing all things clearly. It's a good thing we have scripture!

He is working all things toward His glory and His goal. The political and religious leaders of our day all work into His plan, just as in the past.

[rjmamula]

Lets not jump to conclusion here. We do not know the popes heart. There are many people in the Catholic church who are truly saved Christians though I do not know if the pope himself is saved. And yes all people in authority are appointed by God According to Romans. Since he realized that, the pope should humble himself.

[His Bride]

Lets not jump to conclusion here. We do not know the popes heart. There are many people in the Catholic church who are truly saved Christians though I do not know if the pope himself is saved. And yes all people in authority are appointed by God According to Romans. Since he realized that, the pope should humble himself.

We cannot know his heart, but if he was a truly born again, blood bought Christian then he would not be the leader of this apostate religion which has given the supremacy of Christ to a mere man. He would not be following idols and allowing others to bow down to him. I could go on with this list.

There are numerous threads in the Religion forum which deal with the lies of Roman Catholicism. If this pope was a true believer he would come out and tell his followers that they have been believing a lie!

That said, God has placed him just where God wants him and what remains of his leadership is in God's hands.

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We cannot know his heart, but if he was a truly born again, blood bought Christian then he would not be the leader of this apostate religion which has given the supremacy of Christ to a mere man. He would not be following idols and allowing others to bow down to him. I could go on with this list.

There are numerous threads in the Religion forum which deal with the lies of Roman Catholicism. If this pope was a true believer he would come out and tell his followers that they have been believing a lie!

That said, God has placed him just where God wants him and what remains of his leadership is in God's hands.

Amen... I agree with HB. Jesus would NEVER tell his followers to bow before an idol or worship his mother.. Sorry, to say this, but I know tons (and I'm not exaggerating) of Catholics that say they believe in Mary more than Jesus Christ and do not believe in being Born Again and believe in penance and that other RCC baloney.

Jesus said, come out from among them and be ye separate. He didn't say to move away from them and linger around because it feels good but completely separate and walk away from it. I don't need a prophet or a pastor telling me that. God spoke it, and there is a reason he said it.

If the RCC's are TRULY born again as they claim, what are they still doing in a church that worships mary, take sacraments and adore these saints? It boggles my mind that people are that dumb. Sorry, I do not tolerate stupidity. No wonder the Lord meant well when he said, MY PEOPLE perish because of lack of knowledge....

[His Bride]

At this point, mods, I think we derailed the thread. Do you wish to move it to another forum?

[pegmo]

Lets not jump to conclusion here. We do not know the popes heart. There are many people in the Catholic church who are truly saved Christians though I do not know if the pope himself is saved. And yes all people in authority are appointed by God According to Romans. Since he realized that, the pope should humble himself.

I strongly disagree with your statement that there are many truly saved Catholics in the RCC. After 50 years as a practicing Roman Catholic, I can testify that it is a rare occurrence to find someone who is saved in the RCC. However, it certainly happens, as it did for me. But salvation comes DESPITE Catholicism, not because of it. One has to hear the true gospel elsewhere.

And please know that a truly saved, indwelt Christian, will be moved out of the Catholic Church by the Holy Spirit - not IF, just a question of WHEN - the timing can be different for each believer.

It is a horrible thing to give an unsaved person false hope. Do not continue to assume that Catholics are saved. Catholicism is built on different foundations, different authority and a different gospel/plan of salvation. Two gospels that conflict with each other are NOT the same. There is only ONE gospel that saves, and it is no where to be found in Catholicism. Catholicism is heavily idolatrous and blasphemous.

Catholicism gives the glory due Jesus alone, to men and creatures of every sort. What an offense to the sufficient and finished work of the Lamb of God to assume that those who deny HIS Truth are somehow regenerated and restored to a relationship with the Father through some other means than His son.

[His Bride]

a truly saved, indwelt Christian, will be moved out of the Catholic Church by the Holy Spirit - not IF, just a question of WHEN - the timing can be different for each believer.

It is a horrible thing to give an unsaved person false hope. Do not continue to assume that Catholics are saved. Catholicism is built on different foundations, different authority and a different gospel/plan of salvation. Two gospels that conflict with each other are NOT the same. There is only ONE gospel that saves, and it is no where to be found in Catholicism. Catholicism is heavily idolatrous and blasphemous.

I agree Pegmo!

[InHisGrip]

I strongly disagree with your statement that there are many truly saved Catholics in the RCC. After 50 years as a practicing Roman Catholic, I can testify that it is a rare occurrence to find someone who is saved in the RCC. However, it certainly happens, as it did for me. But salvation comes DESPITE Catholicism, not because of it. One has to hear the true gospel elsewhere.

And please know that a truly saved, indwelt Christian, will be moved out of the Catholic Church by the Holy Spirit - not IF, just a question of WHEN - the timing can be different for each believer.

It is a horrible thing to give an unsaved person false hope. Do not continue to assume that Catholics are saved. Catholicism is built on different foundations, different authority and a different gospel/plan of salvation. Two gospels that conflict with each other are NOT the same. There is only ONE gospel that saves, and it is no where to be found in Catholicism. Catholicism is heavily idolatrous and blasphemous.

Catholicism gives the glory due Jesus alone, to men and creatures of every sort. What an offense to the sufficient and finished work of the Lamb of God to assume that those who deny HIS Truth are somehow regenerated and restored to a relationship with the Father through some other means than His son.

Nicely worded and I concur.

[His Bride]

Lets not jump to conclusion here. We do not know the popes heart. There are many people in the Catholic church who are truly saved Christians though I do not know if the pope himself is saved. And yes all people in authority are appointed by God According to Romans. Since he realized that, the pope should humble himself.

Read the recent posts, rjamula. Those who have posted have come out of the RCC and found salvation in Jesus Christ alone! We know something about the Catholic Church. And we certainly have relationships with our Lord, our sins blotted out, our eternity secure! Praise our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ; through Him alone we have redemption for sin and our names in the Lamb's Book of Life!

[WarriorX]

Ratzinger doesn't believe Jesus is the only way to Heaven... I'd say we can see what his heart is up to.

[Chicken5516]

I strongly disagree with your statement that there are many truly saved Catholics in the RCC. After 50 years as a practicing Roman Catholic, I can testify that it is a rare occurrence to find someone who is saved in the RCC. However, it certainly happens, as it did for me. But salvation comes DESPITE Catholicism, not because of it. One has to hear the true gospel elsewhere.

And please know that a truly saved, indwelt Christian, will be moved out of the Catholic Church by the Holy Spirit - not IF, just a question of WHEN - the timing can be different for each believer.

It is a horrible thing to give an unsaved person false hope. Do not continue to assume that Catholics are saved. Catholicism is built on different foundations, different authority and a different gospel/plan of salvation. Two gospels that conflict with each other are NOT the same. There is only ONE gospel that saves, and it is no where to be found in Catholicism. Catholicism is heavily idolatrous and blasphemous.

Catholicism gives the glory due Jesus alone, to men and creatures of every sort. What an offense to the sufficient and finished work of the Lamb of God to assume that those who deny HIS Truth are somehow regenerated and restored to a relationship with the Father through some other means than His son.

Yep!!

I'm no longer a member.

And hubby has been Saved now for about 6 months. He fought me tooth and nail BEFORE he was Saved about the RCC. Now, he wants nothing to do with it. It was if his eyes were opened and his heart KNOWS that the RCC is not where he should be. God is awesome!!