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    Sources: Obama ready to end harsh interrogations



    WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama is preparing to prohibit the use of waterboarding and harsh interrogation techniques by ordering the CIA to follow military rules for questioning prisoners, according to two U.S. officials familiar with drafts of the plans.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090116/...interrogations

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    Of course!

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    Obamanation does not want to interrogate his comrades.

    I am against water boarding too! Remove their toe nails with pliers works better.


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    Yep, is there any real wonder why they all endorsed his election. Actually, they have made it known that Obama is a "mutard", who rejected the muslim faith as an infidel and earns their worst scorn. I'm not convinced the man believes anything other than his own grand stature.

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    You know what no terrorist can resist? Home baked cookies, warm and fresh from the oven. Makes them talk, every time. Surely Obama is aware of this, because he is a smart President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seemomgonuts View Post
    You know what no terrorist can resist? Home baked cookies, warm and fresh from the oven. Makes them talk, every time. Surely Obama is aware of this, because he is a smart President.
    I still like the idea of bacon loaded bullets, oops my bad

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    I'm sure that terrorists everywhere are laughing themselves silly over this.

    It's over for the US. Obama will surrender to the terrorists without a fight.

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    Oh, it should be a real circus once the libs start their parade. Pray for rain.

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    Sorry, but I disagree. I don't support torture of ANY kind (like waterboarding). Surely there must be another way.

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    There is another way, and there are much more effective ways to elicit information from people. "Harsh" interrogation is just thinly disguised brutality and serves little purpose other than to satisfy the most primitive parts of the brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    There is another way, and there are much more effective ways to elicit information from people. "Harsh" interrogation is just thinly disguised brutality and serves little purpose other than to satisfy the most primitive parts of the brain.
    I would agree with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miviasc View Post

    WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama is preparing to prohibit the use of waterboarding and harsh interrogation techniques by ordering the CIA to follow military rules for questioning prisoners, according to two U.S. officials familiar with drafts of the plans.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090116/...interrogations
    Sorry, here's where he lost it. Extremist Muslim Terrorists DO NOT play according to "military" rules. Never have. Never will.

    Our God, tells us in His Word, quite bluntly, that the wars leading up to Armageddon, Psa. 83 Isa. 17 Eze. 38-39 result in the annihilation of extremist muslim groups (as well as many innocents ).

    What do people not understand here?

    Jaiu - These techniques are what have kept us safe for the 7 years after 9-11. Do you know how many terrorist attacks have been thwarted due to these tactics? How else do you try to get info out of evil persons who are willing to die for the 72 virgins their Allah promises them? I pray for muslims Everyday to come to the saving Grace of Christ Jesus.

    God TELLS us it's going to get worse in the M.E.

    Only God knows what it'll be like here in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf
    There is another way, and there are much more effective ways to elicit information from people. "Harsh" interrogation is just thinly disguised brutality and serves little purpose other than to satisfy the most primitive parts of the brain.
    Awwwww, isn;t that wonderful....so much compassion........

    If we get raided again, you can blame yourselves.

    So don't make any ridiculous excuses, cause you know very well it's the pacifists that lay down and welcome Mr. Evil to come riding in - complete with turban, sword, and bomb.....or....uh...AIRPLANE.

    Oh....let us worship Mr.Bama and welcome his wet-noodle military operations complete with wardrobe, breakfast-in-bed, lounger, and cable TV. Wow, we're really cookin' now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    There is another way, and there are much more effective ways to elicit information from people. "Harsh" interrogation is just thinly disguised brutality and serves little purpose other than to satisfy the most primitive parts of the brain.
    What would those other ways be?

    "Harsh" ? How about beheadings? Would those be considered more harsh than waterboarding?

    Because that's what the muslims do these days.

    Ahhh, and then there are the beheadings of the future.... Rev. 20:4
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1angel4u View Post
    What would those other ways be?

    "Harsh" ? How about beheadings? Would those be considered more harsh than waterboarding?

    Because that's what the muslims do these days.

    Ahhh, and then there are the beheadings of the future.... Rev. 20:4
    Why must it be all about Muslims? There are other terrorist groups out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1angel4u View Post
    Sorry, here's where he lost it. Extremist Muslim Terrorists DO NOT play according to "military" rules. Never have. Never will.
    So what? We should lower our own standards accordingly? I'm reminded of a saying, that it is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
    These techniques are what have kept us safe for the 7 years after 9-11. Do you know how many terrorist attacks have been thwarted due to these tactics?
    Do you? Can you give numbers?
    How else do you try to get info out of evil persons who are willing to die for the 72 virgins their Allah promises them?
    Google for interrogation techniques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaiu View Post
    Why must it be all about Muslims? There are other terrorist groups out there.
    Well, you know, it's just that the MUSLIMS seem to be the most destructive bunch to some along that I can recall in my lifetime since WWII. You think they might be a problem? Just maybe? I guess 911 is just a figment of our imaginations? Oh, wait, I guess the two towers really weren't there after all?

    Why is it people are defending the most notorious of groups on the earth?

    This is what defies the logical human mind, and I cannot reconcile it.

    I just happen to believe that people should possess more cognitive and perceptive outlook than what I'm seeing today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaiu View Post
    Why must it be all about Muslims? There are other terrorist groups out there.
    Here's why...

    No Peace - Know Peace

    Abraham’s two sons, Ishmael and Isaac, fathered the people of two religions known today as Islam and Judaism. (Christians owe their Christianity to the Jews – Jesus was a Jew)

    The Old Testament teaches that God’s chosen people flow through the descendants of Abraham’s second son, Isaac. The Jews are descended from Isaac.

    The Koran teaches that God’s chosen people flow through Abraham’s first-born, Ishmael, and his descendants, the Arab Islamists.

    The Bible says Abraham was ordered to offer Isaac as a sacrifice to God on Mount Moriah (Temple Mount, Jerusalem) and that God stopped him at the last moment.

    The Koran substitutes Ishmael and claims the Jews altered the story.

    The Jews claim Jerusalem as a divine birthright and as the seat of the Holy of Holies located on Temple Mount. Two Jewish Temples have been destroyed there already and according to the Bible a third will be rebuilt in the last days.

    The Koran promises land conquered for Allah would remain Islamic in perpetuity BUT doesn’t mention Jerusalem.

    Modern Islamic thought teaches Mohammed ascended to Paradise from the site of the Dome of the Rock, on Temple Mount.

    In both cases, the stone on which Abraham prepared to offer the sacrifice of either Isaac or Ishmael, depending on your perspective, is located on Temple Mount, or Mount Moriah, Jerusalem.

    For the Arabs to recognize Israel’s right to exist on land once conquered for Allah is tantamount to saying the Koran is wrong. To recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Temple Mount would just compound the blasphemy.

    On the Israeli side, recognizing Arab sovereignty over Jerusalem and the Temple Mount is an admission the Bible was somehow incorrect in its reference to Jerusalem as the City of God.

    Whichever side gives in doesn’t just lose a city, a place of worship, or territory. Peace between Arab and Jew demands the sacrifice of the defining religious identity of an entire people!

    See Gen. 16:11-12
    And you're wrong about terrorists. Do your research. Most of today's terrorists are muslims. Even the Somali pirates.
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