The Obama Birth Certificate Thread

[BrnAgn]

Would never happen.

But we can pray and hope it might be in God's will - A VERY HUMBLING experience for the President elect !!!

[A MAttR of Time]

If, by an act of God, and only God can alter this present time--- IF Obammy were found to be ineligible by the courts and tossed from being prez elect---then I will with confidence say to you---we'll all regret the ensuing violent protests ON OUR DOORSTEPS that will come about.

The messiah crowd will hold sway, IMHO.

Bring it on!!!!

[soonhereturns]

signed it as well.

[Pear]

Kenyan ambassador confirms O was born in Kenya. I can't find a msm source other than the dutch newspaper (headline news there) but google `Mike in the Morning` Detroit WRIF 101FM Obama'. He called the ambassador while on the air and you can find a recording of the conversation.

[Pear]

Kenyan ambassador confirms O was born in Kenya. I can't find a msm source other than the dutch newspaper (headline news there) but google `Mike in the Morning` Detroit WRIF 101FM Obama'. The dj called the ambassador while on the air and you can find a recording of the conversation.

[mercyandgrace]

Did Obama obtain a legal US Passport? I wonder what documentation he provided. I wonder how many folks know you don't actually need a Birth Certificate to obtain a Passport. I say that to say this.....I want to know how we can get the folks who process Passports to reveal how he obtained one. Betcha he didn't use a Birth Certificate. Maybe that could be another feather in the cap for those seeking to get this issue resolved through the Supreme Court.

A person can use secondary and tertiary evidence to obtain a state birth certificate. I've seen several of these that actually turned out to be fraudulently obtained. This is what we call "false claim to U.S. citizenship". These folks are put into proceedings, deported, and permanently barred from ever entering the U.S.

I don't work for the DOS, but I would imagine that they accept secondary and tertiary evidence also.

[mercyandgrace]

JUST PRODUCE THE DOG GONE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OBAMA!

That is all that this guy is asking for: http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr11-24-08.html

Barry

Wow. All I can say is "PREACH IT, BROTHER".

I liked his "Boom Shocka Locka Brother".

The birth cert issue is gaining steam. He's going to be forced into a corner fairly soon.

[mercyandgrace]

Laws are only as good as the morality of the people that they govern. If morality is relative, then laws are also. Look at the country that voted for this man. He was voted in on the basis of greed & covetesness (Obama will steal from others and give to me) those who would murder and watch or support others who would (Obama's terrorists connections as well as his support of abortion and infanticide. The country voted for this man, if the truth didn't prevent him from being elected they won't worry about something as relative as a law to stand in their way.

We are in a battle with spiritual forces not flesh and blood. I don't even pretend to know whether Obama is the anti-christ. But this whole election was at the minimum a dress rehearsal for our enemy to move his selected man into that world office.

It wouldn't surprise me if Obama doesn't manage to destroy America but then because of the spiritual deception that the EU will invite Obama to be president of the world! The world has rejected Christ and has been blinded and become as fools.

In spite of all that, God is in control and we should pray for Obama and his family and their salvation. HELL is forever and I can't imagine that even life will be pleasant for a man that has never once corrected anyone from calling him messiah. God will not be mocked - I fear for this man's soul.

Excellent post.

[WickIsTrimmed]

Great video!

Preach it, Rev. Manning

BOOM-shaka-laka!

[BBB]

A person can use secondary and tertiary evidence to obtain a state birth certificate. I've seen several of these that actually turned out to be fraudulently obtained. This is what we call "false claim to U.S. citizenship". These folks are put into proceedings, deported, and permanently barred from ever entering the U.S.

I don't work for the DOS, but I would imagine that they accept secondary and tertiary evidence also.

Okay, are you saying that with secondary and 'tertiary' (whatever that is) evidence, someone can have a birth certificate produced for themselves?

ETA - Oh, I see what you're saying I think. Like if someone says they were born at home without a doctor present or something? But Obama was supposedly born in a hospital in 1961? I believe? How would this help his case?

ETA 2 - Oh! Duh! You're talking about his passport! Sorry, I'll try to keep up better next time. Heh. (can't get that little goofy smiley or the smack yourself on the head one when editing, but it's there in spirit)

[mercyandgrace]

If obama's U.S. citizenship is not resolved now, it will open the door to question every executive order he issues, every appointment that he makes, every bill that he signs, and every treaty that he signs.

If he is ineligible to be President of the United States, none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.

This issue MUST be resolved before he takes office on January 20, for the sake of our Constitution and our Republic.

[pltsummer]

We, the people, have every right to demand that a "president-elect" is, in fact, eligible to be a president of this country.

Undoubtedly. But we don't have to prove eligibility to the satisfaction of every single citizen demanding ridiculous levels of proof.

Because WE know that our birth certificates are real.

Let's think on that for a moment. Remember, hypothetically, you're trying to prove the legitimacy of your own birth certificate to somebody who doesn't want to believe you.

Do you think 'My birth certificate is real because I know it's real' is a particularly convincing argument?

[mercyandgrace]

Okay, are you saying that with secondary and 'tertiary' (whatever that is) evidence, someone can have a birth certificate produced for themselves?

Absolutely!

Secondary evidence can be submitted to the State. Such evidence is affidavits from family members, baptism records, mid-wife's affidavits, etc.

There are three types of evidence. Primary (which has most credence), secondary (which has a small degree of credence), and tertiary (or third level) evidence (which has very little credence).

Most of these late registration birth certificates are fraudulently obtained. The states issue them. I'm not disrespecting the state workers, but they don't do much vetting.

When I see them, it's a red flag. I keep digging until I eventually find the foreign birth cert. And then the jig is up. They're busted. Their whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

[Pear]

Listen to this: http://my.wrif.com/mim/?cat=12 Mike in the Morning, a Detroit morning radio program, called the Kenyan ambassador and the ambassador verified Obama was born in Kenya.

Here's a newspaper link, http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...__.html?p=23,2 Perhaps someone can find an english translation. This is MSM news in other parts of the world.

[Pear]

I posted from my phone earlier. I can now post links now that I am home.

Listen to this: http://my.wrif.com/mim/?cat=12 Mike in the Morning, a Detroit morning radio program, called the Kenyan ambassador and the ambassador verified Obama was born in Kenya.

Here's a newspaper link, http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...__.html?p=23,2 Perhaps someone can find an english translation. This is MSM news in other parts of the world.

[PRZ-Him]

I signed it too

[4evrHis]

i signed it!! I told my mom about it but she feels like it wont do anything but prayer can change everything

[AnnOdom44]

Found this article on Worldnetdaily
Proofin' the prez


While many have speculated that an official declaration of Obama’s ineligibility may lead to the appointment of Joe Biden as president, the speculation is inaccurate. Since it was up to the respective political party to properly vet their candidate before a primary election, they may not qualify to be rewarded for their lack of integrity. Additionally there is no separate balloting for president and vice-president; they share the same slot. Obama's ineligibility would effectively void the entire Obama-Biden ticket," he said.


I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I think McCain and Palin will win by default... Not for nothin, If Obama was a natural born citizen, wouldn't he have just said " here's my birth certificate"!!! No he has NOT!! What is up with that?

Ron started another thread that explains a lot of this. If Obama is found to be ineligible, then McCain and Palin would be our President and Vice-President.

For PlSummer, it is our CONSTITUTION that we're defending here, in questioning Obama's citizenship. The CONSTITUTION states the qualifications a President must meet, and being a natural-born citizen is one of them. Are we to just toss the CONSTITUTION out the window to please you on this issue? If he's truly an American citizen, then there is no reason for him not to provide a valid birth certificate, and certainly no reason for him to have his Hawaiian "birth certificate" sealed. Yes, he did have it sealed, when he went over to see his dying grandmother. You know, the grandmother whose funeral he didn't bother to go to? Oh yeah, I forgot, he was going over for a special, private memorial service. How cold is that? He is cold, calculating, arrogant, narcisstic, has an inflated opinion of himself, and makes me want to everytime he starts to speak and I can't change the channel fast enough

[gratefulberean]

Undoubtedly. But we don't have to prove eligibility to the satisfaction of every single citizen demanding ridiculous levels of proof.



Let's think on that for a moment. Remember, hypothetically, you're trying to prove the legitimacy of your own birth certificate to somebody who doesn't want to believe you.

Do you think 'My birth certificate is real because I know it's real' is a particularly convincing argument?

Your spinnining in circles. You have not even begun to address the excellent points brought up by so many here.

Give me ONE good reason why the Constitution should not be vigorously defended and preserved.

No ash, trash, pontification or stammering. Answer THAT question directly please.

[gratefulberean]

Signed.