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    Default Biblical Anti-Obama Slogan? Psalm 109:8

    http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/...gan-psalm-1098
    There's a new slogan making its way onto car bumpers and across the Internet. It reads simply: "Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8"

    A nice sentiment?

    Maybe not.

    The psalm reads, "Let his days be few; and let another take his office."

    Presidential criticism through witty slogans is nothing new. Bumper stickers, t-shirts and hats with "1/20/09" commemorated President Bush's last day in office.

    But the verse immediately following the psalm referenced is a bit more ominous: "Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow."

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    Smart thinkin !!

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    While I don't support 0 in any way shape or form, I don't support this scripture verse being used out of context for this. That verse (in context with the chapter) is asking for an evil man to die. Again, I DO NOT SUPPORT 0bama, his presidency, his choices, his agenda, or anything else, but I do not wish for his death. I would rather see him come to Jesus in full repentance and turn his life over to the One True God.

    If this continues, we (Christians) will get slammed for this because some liberal will actually read that passage and figure it out and then say that Christians want Obama dead.

    This is one thing I hate about verses being pulled here and there to support one thing or another. Context, context, CONTEXT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecki View Post
    While I don't support 0 in any way shape or form, I don't support this scripture verse being used out of context for this. That verse (in context with the chapter) is asking for an evil man to die. Again, I DO NOT SUPPORT 0bama, his presidency, his choices, his agenda, or anything else, but I do not wish for his death. I would rather see him come to Jesus in full repentance and turn his life over to the One True God.

    If this continues, we (Christians) will get slammed for this because some liberal will actually read that passage and figure it out and then say that Christians want Obama dead.

    This is one thing I hate about verses being pulled here and there to support one thing or another. Context, context, CONTEXT!!!
    Amen!

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    I am very ashamed to say I am gulty of not checking that next verse out myself and Lord, I beg Your forgiveness. I also would much rather O and his family come to the saving knowledge of You. I have learned a valuable lesson, thank you guys for this!!!! I thought about it, but didn't do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecki View Post
    While I don't support 0 in any way shape or form, I don't support this scripture verse being used out of context for this. That verse (in context with the chapter) is asking for an evil man to die. Again, I DO NOT SUPPORT 0bama, his presidency, his choices, his agenda, or anything else, but I do not wish for his death. I would rather see him come to Jesus in full repentance and turn his life over to the One True God.

    If this continues, we (Christians) will get slammed for this because some liberal will actually read that passage and figure it out and then say that Christians want Obama dead.

    This is one thing I hate about verses being pulled here and there to support one thing or another. Context, context, CONTEXT!!!
    i agree

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    The psalm reads, "Let his days be few; and let another take his office."

    I can see where many people would want to promote this psalm as a prayer for our nation. However, the verse following is not part of the promotion. It was added after the fact.

    As a Christian, I cannot condone anything Obama does as President. My prayer every night is that Obama will be removed from office and our nation restored to it's Christian heritage.

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    I don't see anything wrong with praying that Obama be removed from office. He could be removed by a finding that he is not eligible or by impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherrimae View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with praying that Obama be removed from office. He could be removed by a finding that he is not eligible or by impeachment.
    I have no problem with praying that he is removed from office, I just have a problem using that verse that is taken out of context on that bumpersticker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherrimae View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with praying that Obama be removed from office. He could be removed by a finding that he is not eligible or by impeachment.
    Me either and although I pray BO and his family come to the saving knowlege of Jesus Christ, if not, let the Lord REMOVE him!

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    I saw the bumper sticker also and I think with the verse on the bumper sticker 109:8 only it is funny but then if you read on, maybe it is inappropriate, but then again, the bumper sticker only refers to 109:8, not anything further or anything before. Unbelievers take scripture out of context all the time to "prove" their points, but I think whoever said that liberals will use this to bash Christians is probably right.

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    It doesn't take much for the liberals to get their jabs in. I would not let that keep me from putting that bumper sticker on my car. Their morall deficient behavior is gutter level and I think anything we can present to them regarding cleaning up this government is what we should do. We know they do not think or feel as we do. What a bunch of conniving, lying, greedy, power hungry slim balls..................

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    Default Prayer for Obama; Ps 109:8 is much more than it seems at first glance....

    ....Read the whole Psalm 109.

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    Psalm 109


    To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.

    109:1Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;
    109:2For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
    109:3They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause.
    109:4For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer.
    109:5And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
    109:6Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
    109:7When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
    109:8Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
    109:9Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
    109:10Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
    109:11Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.
    109:12Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.
    109:13Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
    109:14Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
    109:15Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
    109:16Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.
    109:17As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.
    109:18As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones.
    109:19Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.
    109:20Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul.
    109:21But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name's sake: because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me.
    109:22For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me.
    109:23I am gone like the shadow when it declineth: I am tossed up and down as the locust.
    109:24My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh faileth of fatness.
    109:25I became also a reproach unto them: when they looked upon me they shaked their heads.
    109:26Help me, O LORD my God: O save me according to thy mercy:
    109:27That they may know that this is thy hand; that thou, LORD, hast done it.
    109:28Let them curse, but bless thou: when they arise, let them be ashamed; but let thy servant rejoice.
    109:29Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame, and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle.
    109:30I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth; yea, I will praise him among the multitude. 109:31For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor, to save him from those that condemn his soul.

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    I read this to.
    The Lord has very strong language For people Like Obama who try to supplant
    God in order to set themselves in the place of God.

    In many of Obama's speeches you will notice that he leaves the realm of politics and enters the realm of theology.
    When he stands their and says that we are going to see Homosexuality as Good and right and normal from now on ,What he has done in effect is to set the Bible ,and God off to the side and then say's I (Obama)am the new voice of morality and i will decide as if i myself am God.

    That is a very very dangerous position to take ,as you can see by the kind of language God uses against such people.

    The thing about the children is very harsh from a human stand point ,But
    God see's things differently than we do.
    In my mind God would make them beggers to humble them.
    Because only a humble heart has a chance of finding the truth and being saved.
    at least thats the way i see it.

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    I have no problem with Obama being taken out of office, isn't that what most Americans want right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecki View Post
    I have no problem with praying that he is removed from office, I just have a problem using that verse that is taken out of context on that bumpersticker.
    That one verse doesn't say anything about praying he be killed.

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    I think Obama's competition was no better. John McCain left the wife who waited on him while he was a POW and married a younger rich woman. We need a better person than either of them as president. I fear the lack of integrity is just a sign of the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtle View Post
    I read this to.

    The thing about the children is very harsh from a human stand point ,But
    God see's things differently than we do.
    In my mind God would make them beggers to humble them.
    Because only a humble heart has a chance of finding the truth and being saved.
    at least thats the way i see it.
    Are you advocating the bringing down of Obama's children? Who says they are anything other than dear sweet children? Who says they need humbling any more than anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComeLordJesus View Post
    Are you advocating the bringing down of Obama's children? Who says they are anything other than dear sweet children? Who says they need humbling any more than anyone else?
    The first thing you have to understand is that the old and new testaments represent old and new covenants with man. Psalms represents the old covenant wherein a man was judged not only himself but for generations down his bloodline. The reasoning was based on the old testament fact that children were almost completely educated and given their moral & ethical values by their father. If the father was a sinner then the children were almost certain to follow in their father's footsteps and thus needed the same humbling punishment as their father.

    But in the new testament or covenant Jesus died for our sins and therefore all we need to do is accept that gift for ourselves to be saved. That applies to Obama's family as well. They do not have to be humbled and punished for generations now as in the old testament which no longer applies since Jesus died on the cross.

    Now also keep in mind that the bumper sticker reads Psalm 109:8 and not Psalm 109:8,13.

    So, in spite of the tone of the article, the message is not really aimed at Obama's children; who will reap the rewards of belief or suffer the consequences of unbelief on their own merits and not their father's.

    But it does make for some interesting discussion does it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by novembergirl View Post
    That one verse doesn't say anything about praying he be killed.
    You are correct, that one verse doesn't, but the verse is taken out of context of the whole chapter and it's the chapter that prays for an evil mans death. The enemy is not stupid, nor are his followers. Someone in the enemies camp will catch on, put the verse back into context and THEN Christians will be accused of wanting 0bama dead.
    Rebecki


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