'World’s oldest human-linked skeleton found'

[Phillip_19]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33110809...nce/?GT1=43001

I wonder when this will turn out to be false, just like all the other so-called "proof"

[Glory in print]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33110809...nce/?GT1=43001

I wonder when this will turn out to be false, just like all the other so-called "proof"

They all do turn out false, but when it does it won't be reported on I can promise that... I mean for example some of the frauds in the past that have been refuted as frauds are still in some textbooks... These frauds and lies have deceived many and will cause many to wind up in hell, now I know why God hates the sin of lying so much, for one little lie presented as truth can be a stumblingblock to millions.

[Phillip_19]

They all do turn out false, but when it does it won't be reported on I can promise that... I mean for example some of the frauds in the past that have been refuted as frauds are still in some textbooks... These frauds and lies have deceived many and will cause many to wind up in hell, now I know why God hates the sin of lying so much, for one little lie presented as truth can be a stumblingblock to millions.

You are so right, and it's a shame that people don't see through the lies, even when they are proven false.

[Caver]

You are so right, and it's a shame that people don't see through the lies, even when they are proven false.

So right but the other thing is that they need....absolutely need...to believe this mess. Otherwise their self directed view of life don't work.

[kboswell]

Isn't this turning into a monthly event? How much more "proof" do they need? lol I thought the last one a few months ago was supposed to be the final piece of their fairy tale puzzle???

[stewardinchrist]

the fool said in his heart their is no G-d

[SummerSailing81]

I didn't read the article, but if the skeleton is the one AOL had posted on its news page, I can tell you already that it looked more ape than human. But, you're right, Glory, the news media will never report the truth that it was yet another evolutionary lie.

[Pendragon]

I have an honest question and not sure......really not sure Does this still in it's story give and lend credence to old world theroy??? I am not saying this is human as we are nor am I saying we evolved... I have always been confused by this and I know there are 2 frames of mind and that is where I do get confused in honesty...The old earth theroy uses the theroy that as in this verse

2Pe 3:6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

But then we have the 1 week that is 7 years in revelation and then we have the 6 days of creation and day of rest...Now as a jew it was understood to be the 7 days but in all this fossil stuff at least for me I find it hard to understand the time lines... Even having studied science and biblical studies it has always baffled me...I know they speak of things in the days before Noah and then the ages of Noah and his family before and then dates and ages after are a drastic change... but just in taking (1000 x360)7000 comes to about 2.52 billion years the scientists say 4.54 billion years the fossils tell us millions and billions of years in some cases... So is it possible that earth being that old and creation can both be consistent? I still try and wrap my head around the fossils and even description of things in the bible post and prior to the flood. I am also trying to wrap my head around the earth changes that have occured over many years as well fossils they say are from the sea millions or billions of years ago found on moutain tops and such.. again this is the case against what they call global warming as we know weather condtions are effected by moutains and bodies of water because they effect heat cold and wind flow. but to sayn the earth is only 7 thousand just hits me odd.. We can go back to the pharoahs of egypt and the days right after noah with that time frame but then it is sketchy at best as forwhere did the dinosaurs come in?? It is obvious they thrived and did so well as to the amount of them in the world. so why is there no huge mention of them being battled or a danger or even in the days of Moses being a challenge to the jews or for that matter in the Mosaic law of Dietary never being mentioned as unclean or clean? Another question I have is why is it never mentioned of finding the fossils by any of the biblical scholars? I keep leaning to old earth creation and in doing so it gives even more credence to G-d bing forever that way... I have seen read and heard the time lines given by new earth theroy but I find it hard to follow such huge changes happening in just 7000 years.. or for that matter 3500 years since mosaic time...I do believe that we as Humans were created as Humans never evolved.. I do believe that and it is proven that many species of animals and plants have become extinct so in that G-d created many species like chimps which are similar to humans or in a real perspective the differnces between fluffy the house cat to Leo the african lion...the are considered felines but there is no link to evolving from one another up or down I know of. We can show that in somewhat recent history there was Saber tooth and in the elphants Mammoths that died out but elephants were still here... Such an conundrum I know for me Does anyone else ever question these things?? Anyway deep thinking my brain hurts now

[SoundingtheAlarm]

I didn't read the article, but if the skeleton is the one AOL had posted on its news page, I can tell you already that it looked more ape than human. But, you're right, Glory, the news media will never report the truth that it was yet another evolutionary lie.

no because they love to "go ape" over this stuff ya know

[GeoWolf]

This is front page of Yahoo too.

It looks like nothing more than a very old gorilla. Perhaps a type that when extinct centuries ago. Do these scientists ever think of that?

We are still finding new species never before discovered every day. New fish, new birds, new insects, and then this, its just a never before seen by us gorilla.

[Caver]

Having to sit here and

Not long ago I listened to a lecture by Chuck Missler in which he proved something you never hear of in the MSM or really in modern science teachings....they can't, it has too many Creation implications.

They have now proven that time is slowing down....literally. And at a measurable and predictable rate. It was first proven over 50 years ago by a Christian and he was laughed almost out of the academic world. Now, since they have gone to the Cesium Wold Clock, any number of people have proven it.

And....if you take the rate of slow down back to historic and beyond times....guess how old the world is?

Ya guessed it! If this is true, science and Creation are, again, not at odds. It makes all the sense in the world considering the Law of Thermodynamics (forget, 1st or 2nd law...order to disorder)

[UNeverEverNo]

Oh, brother.

[FrankBeMe]

The skull looked just like every other extinct ape skull I've seen. One thing I've noticed....every time they find a skull, it's a new species. They never, or rarely find another skull of whatever species.

This thing is just an extinct ape, just like Lucy and the rest.

[Kerusso02]

Having to sit here and

Not long ago I listened to a lecture by Chuck Missler in which he proved something you never hear of in the MSM or really in modern science teachings....they can't, it has too many Creation implications.

They have now proven that time is slowing down....literally. And at a measurable and predictable rate. It was first proven over 50 years ago by a Christian and he was laughed almost out of the academic world. Now, since they have gone to the Cesium Wold Clock, any number of people have proven it.

And....if you take the rate of slow down back to historic and beyond times....guess how old the world is?

Ya guessed it! If this is true, science and Creation are, again, not at odds. It makes all the sense in the world considering the Law of Thermodynamics (forget, 1st or 2nd law...order to disorder)

That i havent heard about yet...but i have heard chuck talk about an australian physicist that believes the speed of light was slowing down. He stated that originally the speed of light was the same as the speed of gravity but has slowed to its current speed.

[NanC]

Oh give me a break!!! They will say anything to prove evolution, then push their theories on to everyone else. God is the creator, he did not create us from monkeys, he made us in HIS image, and that's that!!!

[Kerusso02]

I have an honest question and not sure......really not sure Does this still in it's story give and lend credence to old world theroy??? I am not saying this is human as we are nor am I saying we evolved... I have always been confused by this and I know there are 2 frames of mind and that is where I do get confused in honesty...The old earth theroy uses the theroy that as in this verse


But then we have the 1 week that is 7 years in revelation and then we have the 6 days of creation and day of rest...Now as a jew it was understood to be the 7 days but in all this fossil stuff at least for me I find it hard to understand the time lines... Even having studied science and biblical studies it has always baffled me...I know they speak of things in the days before Noah and then the ages of Noah and his family before and then dates and ages after are a drastic change... but just in taking (1000 x360)7000 comes to about 2.52 billion years the scientists say 4.54 billion years the fossils tell us millions and billions of years in some cases... So is it possible that earth being that old and creation can both be consistent? I still try and wrap my head around the fossils and even description of things in the bible post and prior to the flood. I am also trying to wrap my head around the earth changes that have occured over many years as well fossils they say are from the sea millions or billions of years ago found on moutain tops and such.. again this is the case against what they call global warming as we know weather condtions are effected by moutains and bodies of water because they effect heat cold and wind flow. but to sayn the earth is only 7 thousand just hits me odd.. We can go back to the pharoahs of egypt and the days right after noah with that time frame but then it is sketchy at best as forwhere did the dinosaurs come in?? It is obvious they thrived and did so well as to the amount of them in the world. so why is there no huge mention of them being battled or a danger or even in the days of Moses being a challenge to the jews or for that matter in the Mosaic law of Dietary never being mentioned as unclean or clean? Another question I have is why is it never mentioned of finding the fossils by any of the biblical scholars? I keep leaning to old earth creation and in doing so it gives even more credence to G-d bing forever that way... I have seen read and heard the time lines given by new earth theroy but I find it hard to follow such huge changes happening in just 7000 years.. or for that matter 3500 years since mosaic time...I do believe that we as Humans were created as Humans never evolved.. I do believe that and it is proven that many species of animals and plants have become extinct so in that G-d created many species like chimps which are similar to humans or in a real perspective the differnces between fluffy the house cat to Leo the african lion...the are considered felines but there is no link to evolving from one another up or down I know of. We can show that in somewhat recent history there was Saber tooth and in the elphants Mammoths that died out but elephants were still here... Such an conundrum I know for me Does anyone else ever question these things?? Anyway deep thinking my brain hurts now

My biggest problem with the day/age theory is this: Gen 1:11 God creates Plants

Gen 1: 14-19 God creates Sun Moon Stars

If each day of creation is an age...then there was a whole age of plants with no sun...just doesnt work.

As far as the dinosaurs, Job is believed by many to be a post flood book and Dinosaurs are mentioned there. Also, i dont think penguins or or sea lions are mentioned in dietary law but they still exist along side man.

Also fluffy the house cat is more closely related to the lion than a chimp is to man.

A good website to check out would be answers in genesis...there is also a mag you can subscribe to called answers that goes into alot of the scientific and somewhat more technical sides of things.

[Crossbeam]

Not for a moment do I believe we came from monkeys. With that said, I do wonder where the RH factor plays into things. Perhaps someone from the medical field can explain that one for me. Thanks!

[Pendragon]

My biggest problem with the day/age theory is this: Gen 1:11 God creates Plants

Gen 1: 14-19 God creates Sun Moon Stars

If each day of creation is an age...then there was a whole age of plants with no sun...just doesnt work.

As far as the dinosaurs, Job is believed by many to be a post flood book and Dinosaurs are mentioned there. Also, i dont think penguins or or sea lions are mentioned in dietary law but they still exist along side man.

Also fluffy the house cat is more closely related to the lion than a chimp is to man.

A good website to check out would be answers in genesis...there is also a mag you can subscribe to called answers that goes into alot of the scientific and somewhat more technical sides of things.

I do understand where you are coming from but to me it is still hard to believe there is only 7000 years and maybe not 7 billion?? I am not sure maybe it is 7 literal days but then how long is a day before noah and then after? The other thing is if he did create plants first he could still keep them alive as long as he wants to just as withering a fig tree for bearing no fruit??? I am truely being honest on being perplexed as I am sometimes a very logical person and well I see all the logic of g-d He is the most amazing mathematical being ever known... from color frequency and the numbers that go with that to radio to just the motion of bending your hand which involces speed and geometry we use everyday and never relieze... Everything around us.. 1 grain of salt you can hardly taste it I teaspoon in volume and eating that straight could make ya sick but still just the chemistry and make up all the way down to the gene... Just imagine for the human eye it requires 1 billion cells for the process of sight??? no way you can evolve that! G-d is a math genius better then every math genius x amillion ever to walk the earth combined... travel distance time he controls it all... so what about time could he have changed time from before to to then after noah... Just condusing for me on that one point...that is why I am asking..

[TEiN]

I do understand where you are coming from but to me it is still hard to believe there is only 7000 years and maybe not 7 billion?? I am not sure maybe it is 7 literal days but then how long is a day before noah and then after? The other thing is if he did create plants first he could still keep them alive as long as he wants to just as withering a fig tree for bearing no fruit??? I am truely being honest on being perplexed as I am sometimes a very logical person and well I see all the logic of g-d He is the most amazing mathematical being ever known... from color frequency and the numbers that go with that to radio to just the motion of bending your hand which involces speed and geometry we use everyday and never relieze... Everything around us.. 1 grain of salt you can hardly taste it I teaspoon in volume and eating that straight could make ya sick but still just the chemistry and make up all the way down to the gene... Just imagine for the human eye it requires 1 billion cells for the process of sight??? no way you can evolve that! G-d is a math genius better then every math genius x amillion ever to walk the earth combined... travel distance time he controls it all... so what about time could he have changed time from before to to then after noah... Just condusing for me on that one point...that is why I am asking..

Pen,

Maybe the problem your having is that you're trying to fit God into what you know about "science". Maybe that's the wrong way. Maybe instead you should try to fit science into what you know about God.

Don't start from the proposition that everything you learned in science class was correct, and then try to make God fit into that picture. Instead, start from the position that everything in the bible is true, and then try to see how science fits in with that. If it doesn't fit, it's the current world's view that's wrong, not the bible.

TEiN

[RosettaLuv]

Good advice, TEiN. All of us should have that thought in mind when looking at science.