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    Did Nadia Bolz-Weber Just Call Jesus “A Schmuck”?

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    DID NADIA BOLZ-WEBER JUST CALL JESUS “A SCHMUCK”?
    By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Sep 2, 2009 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Emergence Christianity, Emergent Church, Features

    Apprising Ministries has long been maintaining that Mainstream Evangelicalism Is Now On The Rapid Slide To Apostasy because of its ongoing embrace of the egregiously ecumenical Emerging Church aka Emergent Church—morphing into Emergence Christianity—(EC).


    Along this line I have reminded you a few times now about the upcoming Emerging Church conference Christianity 21 (C 21) October 9-11.




    It’s important to keep in mind that C 21 is being put on by a most dubious duo of the EC, theologian Tony Jones and his quasi-universalist pastor Doug Pagitt.


    As AM previously pointed out Jo-Pa have informed us that “all 21 of these Voices,” women who’ll be revealing “the way the Christianity will be changing in coming days” are also going to “be in a pulpit somewhere in the Twin Cities that Sunday morning.”

    One character among alleged “innovative” and “most important voices for the future of Christianity” who’ll “speak into our future” in order to “shape the future of our faith”




    at C 21 will be “queer inclusive” ELCA “pastor,” and former “professional f**k-up,” Nadia Bolz-Weber.


    I was actually thinking of not even publishing this article until I received the following email from a “hasty Bob” this morning:

    Thanks for getting the word out about Nadia Bolz-Weber.




    I had never realized how much of an affront she is to those who disagree with her. Its interesting that she is such a great preacher and excellent expositor of the Word, which I’m sure you pride yourself upon being.


    “Pride goeth…




    But thanks anyway for your contribution to the emerging church.

    Well, we’ll ignore his little digs since there are undoubtedly people who think Pastrix Bolz-Weber—


    who really has no business whatsoever heading a church claiming Jesus Christ—is an “excellent expositor of the Word.”


    And as such, it now seems best in the Lord to further expose this pretending pastor.


    And if you’re tempted to think this is much ado about nothing then consider this from Bolz-Weber:


    Wittenburg yesterday then spoke at a Lutheran seminary last night… (Online source) I’m loving GErmany. Spoke at a Lutheran Sem this AM (Online source)

    So, as I said in Emergence Christianity Pastrix Nadia Bolz-Weber Expounds On Psalm 45 she was the one who alerted us to a podcast she’s just done with an Isaac Everett.


    Everett himself is also an EC pastor of sorts such as Bolz-Weber claims to be and in the introduction for his podcast Everett informs us:



    Nadia Bolz-Weber, the Sarcastic Lutheran, discusses Psalm 45, the nerdiest love song in the Bible.

    Nadia is the pastor of the House for All Sinners and Saints in Denver and the author of Salvation on the Small Screen: 24 Hours of Christian Television. (Online source)



    Pastrix Bolz-Weber calling Psalm 45 “the nerdiest Psalm ever” is precisely the focus of this particular piece. During the short “exposition” of Psalm 45 by this EC “Voice” Bolz-Weber will tell us that this Psalm talks about


    “like the chicks in your court, are like, totally hot,”

    and “it makes me think the person he’s writing about is actually kind of a schmuck and he doesn’t like him.”


    But Psalm 45 is a Messianic Psalm, it’s ultimately about the Christ—Jesus of Nazareth.

    Now what kind of a pastor actually sent by Jesus would dare to refer to a Messianic Psalm, inspired by God Himself, as the nerdiest Psalm ever; and especially one who makes the claim that she’s a Lutheran pastor.



    We already know from Luther’s Works, Vol 10 Lectures On The Psalms I, that Martin Luther held the position Psalm 45 was about Jesus; and now lets’s also consider the following from the great Bible commentator Matthew Henry:




    This psalm is an illustrious prophecy of Messiah the Prince: it is all over gospel, and points at him only, as a bridegroom espousing the church to himself and as a king ruling in it and ruling for it. It is probable that our Saviour has reference to this psalm when he compares the kingdom of heaven, more than once, to a nuptial solemnity, the solemnity of a royal nuptial, Mt. 22:2; 25:1.



    We have no reason to think it has any reference to Solomon’s marriage with Pharaoh’s daughter; if I thought that it had reference to any other than the mystical marriage between Christ and his church,

    I would rather apply it to some of David’s marriages, because he was a man of war, such a one as the bridegroom here is described to be, which Solomon was not. But I take it to be purely and only meant of Jesus Christ; of him speaks the prophet this, of him and of no other man; and to him (v. 6, 7) it is applied in the New Testament (Heb. 1:8), nor can it be understood of any other. (Online source)



    Or how about this from Dr. Willem A. VanGemeren from the middle of the road evangelical Expositor’s Bible Commentary series:



    The psalm is a royal psalm and functioned as a wedding song at the occasion of the wedding of a royal couple. Because of the theological significance of the wedding and the function of the Davidic king within God’s order of life in Israel and Judah, the wedding song takes on typological significance. Applicable to any descendant of David, it extols the privileged position of his people and sets forth God’s expectations of his appointed vassal on earth (cf. Pss 2; 110).



    In a special way the psalm also applies to our Lord, who rules as the Son of David (cf. Heb 1:8). However, the expositor must first listen to the psalm in the context of Israel and restrain himself from reading only the relationship of Christ and the church into this text. In this manner he can appreciate more the blessedness of the rule of the One born of a woman into the lineage of David: Jesus our Messiah. (Psalm 45, CR Rom)



    It’s pretty clear for those with ears to hear that the inspired Psalmist, while likely intending to write simply of the royal wedding of someone in the Davidic line, was then guided by God the Holy Spirit (see—2 Peter 1:20-21) to also write concerning the Messiah Himself i.e. Christ Jesus.


    So with this proper Bibliology in mind I will point you to the clip below by Christian apologist Chris Rosebrough from his Fighting For The Faith program on his Pirate Christian Radio network where he further elucidates the proper Biblical context of Psalm 45.





    Among other things, as Rosebrough deconstructs the foolishness of Bolz-Weber and Everett from that aforementioned podcast, he brings out a key point in that God would inspire the writer of the Book of Hebrews to quote from Psalm 45 and apply it to Jesus the Christ:

    Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness; you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions. (Psalm 45:6-7, ESV)

    But of the Son he says, ”Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.” (Hebrews 1:8-9, ESV)

    Rosebrough happens to be dead-on-target when he says:

    It is unmistakeable that, here in Psalm 45, we’re got this amazing—amazing—prophecy regarding Jesus Christ Himself. And so, in this royal wedding Psalm, there is embedded in it, a clear allusion to Jesus Christ; and I would even say the Wedding Feast of the Lamb.

    The coming future eschatological event when Jesus Christ, and the Bride of Christ—which is His Church—are joined together.






    Which now brings me to my original question: Did Nadia Bolz-Weber just call Jesus Christ a schmuck? Answer: Yes, she did.



    And here’s the bigger question: Why doesn’t this seem to bother anyone?

    Well, as I told Bolz-Weber and her EC ilk before; here’s a newsflash:

    She’s the one foolish enough to attempt to pass herself off as a gay-affirming woman who’s supposedly a Lutheran pastor doing “Emerging Church ala Luther,”


    and then allows herself to be touted by two well-respected Emergent Church leaders as one of the “most important voices for the future of Christianity.”




    And so she’d best be prepared for those like myself whom God has raised up and given forums where we can — reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith (Titus 1:13, NASB).



    See also:

    CHRISTIANITY 21 AND ALLEGED INNOVATIVE VOICES IN THE FAITH: NADIA BOLZ-WEBER

    NADIA BOLZ-WEBER WEIGHS IN ON ELCA CHURCH-WIDE ASSEMBLY

    NADIA BOLZ-WEBER: SERMON ON JUDAS AND GRACE GONE WILD

    APPRISING MINISTRIES WITH A PEEK AT THE COMING SOTERIOLOGY OF EMERGENCE CHRISTIANITY

    CHRISTIANITY 21: EMERGING VOICES OF A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN FAITH

    THE NEW CHRISTIANS WITH CHRISTIANITY WORTH BELIEVING—NO SOLA SCRIPTURA: YES, WOMEN PASTORS AND QUEER CHRISTIANS

    ROB BELL, PETER ROLLINS AND PHYLLIS TICKLE TOGETHER ADVANCING EMERGENCE CHRISTIANITY


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    Comments like that about my Lord still stab me right in my heart.

    It goes right along with hearing His name abused.
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    Psalm 14:1 "The fool says in his heart "there is no God.'"

    John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

    Rev 22:20 "He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming quickly.' Amen, Come, Lord Jesus."

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    Quote Originally Posted by His Bride View Post
    Comments like that about my Lord still stab me right in my heart.

    It goes right along with hearing His name abused.
    He should come over here in person and say that. That butt kicking line is one I would certainly stand in for hours...
    I love you best today!

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    Don't worry ladies, all in God's time

    Holy, Holy, Holy, Is the Lord God Almighty,
    Who was and is and is to come!!
    With all creation I sing, Praise to the King of Kings!!
    You are my everything, and I will, adore You!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amber Lynne View Post
    He should come over here in person and say that. That butt kicking line is one I would certainly stand in for hours...
    He'd be too scared. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amber Lynne View Post
    He should come over here in person and say that. That butt kicking line is one I would certainly stand in for hours...
    Just for clarity, Nadia is a "she." And Amber Lynne, I would put you in the front of the line.
    Maranatha






    Psalm 14:1 "The fool says in his heart "there is no God.'"

    John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

    Rev 22:20 "He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming quickly.' Amen, Come, Lord Jesus."

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    There was more on her today at Reformata.

    http://www.reformata.org/2009/09/out...ia-bolz-weber/

    It truly is as pastor Todd Wilken said today on Issues, Etc., all false teaching eventually leads to the same spiritual sewer. And in this case the sewer would be the Emerging Church and its evil agenda affirming that a lifestyle of committing unrepentant sexual immorality in having sexual relations with another of the same sex i.e homosexuality is a viable lifestyle for the Christian. You need to know that even though these people were once working independantly; but, no more
    But for now, I will use this opportunity to remind you once again that there’s a very dark and threatening same-sex storm right now approaching hurricane force, and which is currently only slightly off the coast of the mainstream evangelical community.
    Slightly off the coast....!!! Pick one.
    "..but the hand of the LORD was strong upon me." -Ezek. 3:14
    May it ever be so!

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