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    Some say there are 2 gospels. One was given to Peter before Jesus ascended and Peter preached that gospel in Acts 2.

    The other was given to Paul and He preached it later in the book of Acts.

    Is the gospel Peter preached different from what Paul preached?

    Reconcile the fact that both preached to Jews and Gentiles.

    Please show bible proof of this claim.

    What is different from what Peter preached compared to what Paul preached?

  • #2
    There's only one true Gospel. All the apostles preached the same message (gospel).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by blessedinhim View Post
      Some say there are 2 gospels. One was given to Peter before Jesus ascended and Peter preached that gospel in Acts 2.

      The other was given to Paul and He preached it later in the book of Acts.

      Is the gospel Peter preached different from what Paul preached?

      Reconcile the fact that both preached to Jews and Gentiles.

      Please show bible proof of this claim.

      What is different from what Peter preached compared to what Paul preached?
      Please list the differences between Paul's & Peter's gospels (cite the verses)



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      • #4
        I do not believe that there are 2 gospels.

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        • #5
          Where are those that say there are 2 gospels? Show me, please! with scripture.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by blessedinhim View Post
            Some say there are 2 gospels. One was given to Peter before Jesus ascended and Peter preached that gospel in Acts 2.

            The other was given to Paul and He preached it later in the book of Acts.

            Is the gospel Peter preached different from what Paul preached?

            Reconcile the fact that both preached to Jews and Gentiles.

            Please show bible proof of this claim.

            What is different from what Peter preached compared to what Paul preached?
            The question has to be whether or not those who heard Peter became a part of the same group as them that heard Paul. In the end, that is really all that matters. And the answer to that question is a resounding biblical "yes indeed they did!"

            In order to make their case the opposition must first of all show (somehow) that those saved in the book of Acts (during that particular time period) are somehow not members of the body of Christ. And then it must be defined just what exactly they belong to.

            It can be clearly shown that Paul believed that even those believers coverted prior to his own conversion, whom he percecuted, were members of the body of Christ.

            1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

            Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

            1Ti 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

            There is no indication (except for that which might be imagined) that Paul thought of the Church, or the gospel, as ever having been divided in any way, either before or after his conversion, much less anytime after that.

            Jesus also agreed:
            Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
            Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

            And so the obvious indication is that Paul believed both Jews and Gentiles were always preached one gospel:
            Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

            This would obviously be the same gospel Paul preached throughout his ministry. As here:
            Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

            And again here:
            Act 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
            Act 28:26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
            Act 28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
            Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

            That they will hear "what"?? The same gospel he was preaching to the Jews obviuosly; the same as was to be preached to the gentiles.

            And this is the same application which Jesus used for this prophecy when his supposed "other (kingdom) gospel" was being preached as well.

            And what is also very telling to me, is that the first gentile conversion ever recorded in the bible, was upon the these words:
            Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
            Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
            Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

            This is without doubt the same message of salvation which was preached in Acts 2. As Peter had not changed his tac one wit.

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            • #7
              ''(cite the verses)''

              I agree

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              • #8
                Originally posted by blessedinhim View Post
                Where are those that say there are 2 gospels? Show me, please! with scripture.
                Peter preached primarily to the Jews but also to Gentiles.
                And Paul preached to Gentiles but also to Jews

                Paul had problems with Peter trying to keep some of the Jewish laws, such as abstaining from certain foods and not associating with Gentiles, and Paul rebuked him for it. Galatians 2

                But they both preached the same Gospel,

                Jesus' death, burial, resurrection:
                Peter: Acts 2:36, Acts 4:10, 1 Peter 1:19
                Paul: 1 Cor 15:1-4, Rom 6:1-5, etc

                Grace/Mercy:
                Peter: 1 Pet1:3, 2:10
                Paul: Eph 2:8, Rom 9:16,18, etc

                Repentance:
                Peter: Acts 2:38, 2 Pet 3:9
                Paul: Acts 17:30, 20:21, 2Tim 2:25

                Faith:
                Peter: Acts 3:16, 1Pet 1:5,9 2 Pet 1:1
                Paul: Acts 16:31, Rom 3:22,25,etc

                The Kingdom
                Peter: This heaven and earth as we know it is going to be burned up, and
                God will create a new world. (2 Pet 3:10)
                Paul: Our citizenship is in Heaven (Philippians 3:20)

                Our Conduct
                Peter: "...holy behavior.." (2 Pet 3:11) Live/be holy (1 Pet 1:13-17)
                Paul: lay aside the flesh, pursue Godliness (Rom 12:1-2, Philippians 2, Col 3, etc)

                Some protestants when discrediting Peter to Catholics to show he was not the first Pope use the 2 gospel theory, maybe that is why they are claiming Peter preached a different Gospel.
                It does show that Peter had to be corrected for his actions, but not for what he preached.
                I don't believe the first pope was until 300+ A.D. so I don't believe the first pope could be Peter anyway.
                Last edited by Buzzardhut; October 4th, 2007, 09:50 PM.



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                • #9
                  Bullingerism

                  So this is where they get it!!!

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                  • #10
                    God's Trombone will tell you all about the 2 gospels....Go to the Pauline Dispensationalism thread.

                    I agee with Buzzardhut. It's taking a presupposition and bending scripture to get to the 2 gospel view.

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                    • #11
                      yes, he has posted a lot about it, if you look, I have posted as much against it. He didnt answer my last question and it has kinda gotten into a 2 subject thread. So, I started this thread. I agree with buzzardhut, as well.

                      Buzzardhut: Some protestants when discrediting Peter to Catholics to show he was not the first Pope use the 2 gospel theory, maybe that is why they are claiming Peter preached a different Gospel.
                      It does show that Peter had to be corrected for his actions, but not for what he preached.
                      I don't believe the first pope was until 300+ A.D. so I don't believe the first pope could be Peter anyway.
                      they take the scripture about on this rock I will build my church, thinking Jesus was talking about Peter, but actually Jesus was talking about what Peter said. What Peter said to the question Jesus asked is the Rock.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blessedinhim View Post
                        They take the scripture about on this rock I will build my church, thinking Jesus was talking about Peter, but actually Jesus was talking about what Peter said. What Peter said to the question Jesus asked is the Rock.
                        Amen

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blessedinhim View Post
                          Bullingerism

                          So this is where they get it!!!

                          Yes he is the father of this mess. But many believe he is just taking plain ol' dispensational doctrine to it's logical conclusion.
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                          Last edited by Buzzardhut; October 10th, 2007, 05:20 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Thank you LaMontre.

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                            • #15
                              Les Feldick does not preach two gospels, he explains, the difference in why John the Baptist and Jesus proclaimed the Kingdom to the Jew's. There is a difference between the Jewish and Gentile audiences, which is important. Jesus did offer the Jew's the Kingdom, the Jew's declined for a reason, which was to bring the Gentiles into the promise of salvation, like the OT Prophets foretold. Covenant and progressive theology have thier own set of problems, not just the hyper dipsy's.

                              http://www.lesfeldick.org/
                              Last edited by Lexie; October 5th, 2007, 04:24 PM. Reason: spelling

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