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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shannon9602 View Post
    I don't understand why they want to leave British out of the picture....
    I don't believe that Britain will be part of the ten kings. I believe they will part of a seperate block, at least when Ezekiel's war happens. Of course they will most likely join the beast's empire later. As the anti-christ's control will extend to most if not all the nations of the Earth.

    Eze 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?


    That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
    And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    Philippians 2:10-11

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Prodigal Son View Post
      I don't believe that Britain will be part of the ten kings. I believe they will part of a seperate block, at least when Ezekiel's war happens. Of course they will most likely join the beast's empire later. As the anti-christ's control will extend to most if not all the nations of the Earth.

      Eze 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

      I would not use Jack Van Impe as a credible source, he's known to be wrong on many occasions. I also do not agree that Germany is Gomer, most scholars place Gomer as Turkey.

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      • #18
        Isn't this exciting!!! We can actually see events shaping up in the end days! OK, everyone just sit back and daydream a minute---we're at the marriage supper of the lamb--with our Lord forever--we have the millenium to look forward to--to rule and reign with our Redeemer--can you see your mansion?--His nail scarred hands?--look at the beautiful gates made of pearl and the streets of gold--now look at all of the saints that we love so dearly! Ok--daydreaming is over--pick up some tracts and hand them out-we've got to be about our Father's business!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by one4God View Post
          Mods, I checked the source and the information seems to be reliable.
          Praying for the lost; prophecy is unfolding so very rapidly.
          Please provide a link for this, we don't want to have to delete it.
          "...earnestly contend for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." Jude 1:3b


          Jesus + something = nothing

          Jesus + nothing = Everything

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          • #20
            Check this map:

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            • #21
              Originally posted by barryinaustralia View Post
              Check this map:
              Bravo sir! Thats what I'm looking for. Much more accurate.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Fibonacci View Post
                I would not use Jack Van Impe as a credible source, he's known to be wrong on many occasions. I also do not agree that Germany is Gomer, most scholars place Gomer as Turkey.
                Acually i got that map from here, Chris posted it years ago. I too, don't believe that Germany is Gomer, though Hal Lindsey does. But reread my post, it was about Britain, not Gomer. I believe that Britain is Tarshish. Britain belongs to the commonweath group. A group of former British colonies. They need the EU less than most of the European nations. They have resisted a lot of attempts at becoming a state in a super-Europe.

                That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
                And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

                Philippians 2:10-11

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                • #23
                  gomer?

                  Here's a list I've compiled after reading books from the following:

                  Joel Rosenberg

                  Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia and former Soviet Republics
                  Persia - Iran
                  Cush - Sudan, Ethiopia, and possibly Eritrea
                  Put - Libya, Algeria, Tunisia
                  Gomer - Turkey and possibly Germany and Austria
                  Bethtogarmah - Turkey, Armenia, and the Turkic-speaking peoples of Asia Minor and Central Asia
                  Countries with mountanous borders with Israel - Syria, Lebanon, and northern Jordan
                  Many Peoples with you - Possible additional Islamic Allies
                  [Sbeba and Dedan] - [Saudia Arabia, Yemen, Oman, and the Gulf States]

                  Mark Hitchcock

                  Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia, Central Asia, and possibly Afghanistan, Turkey
                  Persia - Iran
                  Cush - Sudan
                  Put - Libya
                  Gomer - Turkey
                  Bethtogarmah - Turkey

                  Arnold Fruchtenbaum

                  Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia
                  Persia - Iran
                  Cush - Ethiopia
                  Put - Somalia (and definitely not Libya)
                  Gomer - Germany
                  Bethtogarmah - Armenia
                  Many Peoples with you - May or may not mean additional countries

                  John Hagee

                  Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia
                  Persia - Iran
                  Cush - Ethiopia
                  Put - Libya

                  Tim LaHaye

                  Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia
                  Persia - Iran
                  Cush - Ethiopia
                  Gomer - Germany and possibly some Eastern European Countries
                  Bethtogarmah - Armenia and possibly Turkey

                  Jimmy DeYoung

                  Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia, Turkey
                  Persia - Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan
                  Cush - Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan
                  Put - Libya

                  John Walvoord

                  Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia
                  Persia - Iran
                  Cush - East of Egypt and West of Red Sea (But Uncertain)
                  Put - South of Cush in Africa (But Uncertain)
                  Gomer - Asia Minor and others in Eastern Europe
                  Bethtogarmah - Armenia
                  [Sbeba and Dedan] - [Southwestern and Southern Arabia]


                  some of the above probably base their assumptions on original work, others probably accept the results of others' studies. maps may or may not be accurate. I figure we'll know for sure eventually, whether we're here or home.
                  Tall Timbers, Imperfect but forgiven

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tall Timbers View Post
                    Here's a list I've compiled after reading books from the following:

                    Joel Rosenberg

                    Magog, Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal - Russia and former Soviet Republics
                    Persia - Iran
                    Cush - Sudan, Ethiopia, and possibly Eritrea
                    Put - Libya, Algeria, Tunisia
                    Gomer - Turkey and possibly Germany and Austria
                    Bethtogarmah - Turkey, Armenia, and the Turkic-speaking peoples of Asia Minor and Central Asia
                    Countries with mountanous borders with Israel - Syria, Lebanon, and northern Jordan
                    Many Peoples with you - Possible additional Islamic Allies
                    [Sbeba and Dedan] - [Saudia Arabia, Yemen, Oman, and the Gulf States]
                    I tend to agree with Joel mostly on this. These are the exceptions.:

                    Cush - I believe has more nations from non-Arab Africa.
                    Put - May include all 5 Arab nations west of Eqypt. In the 90's the 5 had an economic trading block. I don't know if it still exists though?
                    The seeds of my thoughts on Put and Cush come from Hal Lindsey.

                    Gomer - Turkey. I could be wrong on this, as several teachers consider Germany a possibility. But i just don't see Germany joining an islamic invasion of Israel. But then, i didn't see Berlin wall coming down either (before the ac arrives). I didn't see the fall of the Soviet Union coming before the tribulation. Along with other world changing events that have happened since i've been watching.

                    I discount much of the map i posted. I believe that Tarshish is Britain. And i find it an interesting theory that Magog may be Kazakstan.

                    That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
                    And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

                    Philippians 2:10-11

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by $teve View Post
                      Good find. Good find! I posted about this a couple of weeks ago here. But this is a new write up and a very interesting one too.

                      Folks, imo this could very possibly and plausibly, and very likely, be the actual office of the end-times anti-christ being discussed and created right here before our very eyes! This, at a time when new economic data coming out of Europe, in particular the Eurozone, showing accelerating deteriorating economic conditions in those countries. The Eurozone sovereign debt crisis - one of the key drivers behind the move toward a super EU President.

                      Let's examine the article a little more thoroughly, and I do acknowledge this is from the perspective of the UK...





                      Secretive, covert group of EU ministers. A European emperor that could only be aspired to by Napoleon Bonaparte. Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne that dominated Europe in the Dark Ages.





                      The only question mark here that I can see is that this office would be bureaucratic, meaning an office not directly elected by the people. Not sure if the anti-christ will himself will assume the office via a vote among ministers and then consolidate power via popular elections? I think this was the route Hitler traveled to gain the power he did over Germany. His popularity and mandate only grew with his fierce nationalistic vision on the back of Germany's depressed economic conditions at the time, a lot like what we are beginning to see in parts of Europe now. Time will tell of course, but this is fascinating news and worth noting and watching.
                      Isn't there still an unfilled seat #666 at the E.U. ?
                      The dogs are barking, someone is knocking on the door...

                      Please pray for Lindsey's salvation

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cindy S. View Post
                        Isn't there still an unfilled seat #666 at the E.U. ?
                        How do you know there is a unfilled seat #666?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Shannon9602 View Post
                          How do you know there is a unfilled seat #666?
                          I'm just going by memory, something mentioned on this board maybe?

                          It's been quite a few years.

                          I searched the U.N. Website but haven't found it yet.

                          I believe there was a chart with seat numbers and names.
                          The dogs are barking, someone is knocking on the door...

                          Please pray for Lindsey's salvation

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Shannon9602 View Post
                            How do you know there is a unfilled seat #666?
                            The Vacant Seat Number 666 in the European Parliament
                            http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=666
                            The prophetic significance of the European Union has been revealed as the saga unfolds. [See our two articles on "The Conspiracy behind the European Union".] First, the sign which it chose as its symbol was the Woman riding the Beast. This comes from a prophecy in Revelation 17. The depiction of the harlot woman was reproduced on the centenary stamp of the European Union, in a huge painting in the Parliament's new building in Brussels, and by a huge sculpture outside the new E.U. Council of Ministers Office in Brussels. The new European coinage, the Euro, bears the same insignia. The Tower of Babel has been used on the posters emanating from Europe – a truly suggestive prophetic sign.

                            Now, a massive Crystal Palace tower (officially called the Tower Building) houses the Fifth Parliament of Europe.

                            It is certainly a building of the Space Age. The seats of its massive hemicycle are designed like the crew seats in the Star Trek space machines. There are 679 of them – but wait for it! While these seats are allocated to Members, one seat remains unallocated and unoccupied. The number of that seat is 666. The relevant section of the seating-plan provided to each Member reads as follows:
                            The dogs are barking, someone is knocking on the door...

                            Please pray for Lindsey's salvation

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                            • #29
                              I've been wondering if the three Kings who are "Subdued" will be the three positions that this "Super" EU President will take over??

                              We tend to think it's three leaders of three countries, which it could be, but what if it's a clue that the AC will come out of this new Super EU President they want, which will give him power over three divisions of the EU...
                              hmmm

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                              • #30
                                Link You Requested

                                Originally posted by iSong6:3 View Post
                                Please provide a link for this, we don't want to have to delete it.
                                http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-scrap-Britain


                                I hope this helps; I thought that including the whole article with the source at the end was enough. Thank you for letting me know.

                                http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-scrap-Britain

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