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  • #16
    There is much complaining about federal government,

    but is state and local any better?


    Years go by with no property tax reform.

    Gambling passed in PA with the few tid bits of income going to Philly.

    Cities now run the state - milking the farmers

    Farmers addicted to their milk checks

    Few if any independent as the banks own most everything, and the feds own the banks.


    Influx of hispanic giving a solid vote base for the scoundrels in power.

    Schools programming the next generation to hate parents and depend on big brother.

    Life is but a video game for most.

    The baton is being passed to ageneration unfit to carry it.

    Most churches are in their death throws.



    America's future does not look good. Another 100 years at this point would require a civil war, and likely the result of that
    would be a nation led by a nose ring.

    We certianly need a dynamic leader to turn this around, but the leader Prophecy has in store will be redirecting to himself.


    It seems bleak doesn't it. The storm clouds gathered.



    But we have citizenship elsewhere. We live in the Light. Our hope is unfettered.
    Our Promise made by the King Himself.

    Encourage one another in the work He has appointed us. Do the best you can to see this world as a passing fad.

    Our God Reigns and wil call us when the work is done. We will go Home.

    How we get there will be all to His praise.

    There is so much more we already have in Christ!

    Praise Him! Praise Jesus!
    It's ALL about Jesus. The Son of God - Emanuel - The Mighty God - Our Salvation.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by one4God View Post
      That is true, other dictartorships have occured and not led to the Trib. However, if you factor in the other prophecy that is being fulfilled, there is no doubt that we are living in the last days. No datesetting, but we are definitely in the last days.
      That is my hope also, but we don't know how long we'll be here.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Florian9 View Post
        The cowards in Congress dare not confront the "chosen one" and mean it. Our MSM would tar & feather them for such insolence and accuse them of "racism". It'll be interesting to see what happens between now & November. Honestly, it really doesn't matter--he could declare a dictatorship tomorrow and over half of our citizenry wouldn't blink. I'm very surprised the republic has survived in it's current form up to this point. Regardless of what happens (& it could get downright apocolyptic ugly) the Lord is still in control. We shouldn't fear mere measly men! Or anything else for that matter!
        Curious.... If Obama declared himself dictator tomorrow, what would our military do? I have to believe there would be defections. Most likely west and east coasts allied with Obama, and flyover country comprising of the Republic Rebels (my term). In that situation, Obama has all but won without a single shot fired. He who controls our nation's seaports and major tributaries already have a massive leg up.

        Not sure about the east coast, but the line on the west coast would start in Canada and follow the Cascade Mountain Range through Washington, Oregon (effectively splitting those two states) and most of northern California, perhaps only as far as Redding. Obama would control the west side of the Cascades and all of central/southern Cali. Everyone east of the Cascades, save for the sin cities of Reno and Vegas would be anti-Obama, stretching all the way from Idaho/Utah/Montana to Ohio/Kentucky/Tennessee and possibly Georgia and the Carolinas. Northern states such as Illinois, Pennsylvania and the entire northeastern cooridor would be firm Obama country. Colorado could be a toss up, but the rebels would have Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, Ohlahoma and Texas to keep them in line,

        In such a situation, it really comes down to one thing: Omama has the majority of people and large cities, but the rebels would occupy most of the land.

        I wonder if something like that will start to take place soon after the Rapture, at least until the AC comes on the scene to put a stop to it (for the sake of "peace"). Just thinking out loud, as it were.

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        • #19
          Indeed OnlyHim! there is probably many facets to this situation.

          Originally posted by OnlyHIM! View Post
          Glad you pointed this out about what Obama is doing. I just want to say this. No one so far has been able to explain to me why Congress, the States, the general public for that matter, is not doing anything to confront Obama's complete disregard of the US Constitution or even some of our laws. I am beside myself in awe that the is no action to confront or try and challange him at all! Am I missing something? Is he actually allowed to violate the constitution and break the law?

          Something is very strange about this particular situation.
          This part I believe is Spitually inspired in some way, we may not know the mechanics but we can understand how it might be accomplished:

          Scriptural Example:
          1 Kings 22:19-22 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

          So lets put Obama in this:
          And the Lord said who shall persuade the American people to vote for Obama and allow him to act unimpeded by the Congress to turn the USA into a dictatorship to bring about Satan's Kingdom on Earth? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a compelling spirit in the heart of the Americans and Congress. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

          The whole situation on Earth is principalities, powers, and the rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places that are maneuvering to bring about God's Prophetic Words to Fruition.

          Based on what all we Christians do observe, which does frustrate us because we love both God and Country, it all goes contrary to what we feel should be the appropriate response to what we obviously see as both treason and major crimes being commited against our Country and its citizens.

          This in and of itself points to an extreme nearness of when our Lord shall come and get us. For we all know that if "o" isn't re-elected He will "RE-INSTALL HIMSELF" IMHO
          John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.Matthew 5:23-24 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Praying View Post
            I agree. Something is indeed very strange about all of this. At any other time , Congress would have been fighting tooth and nail, and would have already began proceedings to have him kicked to the curb and would have stopped at nothing to make it happen. Now suddenly, those in a position to do anything about this remain silent.
            Its an election year. Just as some claim Obama will become Supreme Dictator without firing a shot, we also know we can elect someone else without firing a shot.

            Impeachment proceedings would not only not work in the slightest, they would ensure Obama's re-election.
            Don't panic! Just be Rapture Ready.

            Joel 3:2

            I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will put them on trial for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel, because they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Wally View Post
              There is much complaining about federal government,

              but is state and local any better?


              Years go by with no property tax reform.

              Gambling passed in PA with the few tid bits of income going to Philly.

              Cities now run the state - milking the farmers

              Farmers addicted to their milk checks

              Few if any independent as the banks own most everything, and the feds own the banks.


              Influx of hispanic giving a solid vote base for the scoundrels in power.

              Schools programming the next generation to hate parents and depend on big brother.

              Life is but a video game for most.

              The baton is being passed to ageneration unfit to carry it.

              Most churches are in their death throws.



              America's future does not look good. Another 100 years at this point would require a civil war, and likely the result of that
              would be a nation led by a nose ring.

              We certianly need a dynamic leader to turn this around, but the leader Prophecy has in store will be redirecting to himself.


              It seems bleak doesn't it. The storm clouds gathered.



              But we have citizenship elsewhere. We live in the Light. Our hope is unfettered.
              Our Promise made by the King Himself.

              Encourage one another in the work He has appointed us. Do the best you can to see this world as a passing fad.

              Our God Reigns and wil call us when the work is done. We will go Home.

              How we get there will be all to His praise.

              There is so much more we already have in Christ!

              Praise Him! Praise Jesus!
              Well said Wally! Amen!
              Jesus is coming now at "Any Moment"! Are you ready?

              Romans 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

              Praying for the Peace of Jerusalem. Amen.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Praying View Post
                I agree. Something is indeed very strange about all of this. At any other time , Congress would have been fighting tooth and nail, and would have already began proceedings to have him kicked to the curb and would have stopped at nothing to make it happen. Now suddenly, those in a position to do anything about this remain silent. Barely a peep out of anyone. The only thing I can think of, is that the evil is so present, and has cast a environment of total chaos and confusion to the point that none of them truly know exactly what is happening themselves, or can pinpoint the specifics. They know something is wrong, but just can't seem to put the pieces together. Unfortunately, that is very common when dealing with a narcissist. It often takes many, many years to figure it all out, and sometimes you never truly do figure it all out. All you know is the damage is done, and you're left in a state of shock and confusion. Only by the power of the Lord Jesus Christ, can one see the truth.
                Your point about narcissism is sooooo true! IMHO, unless someone has seen a narcissist up close (immediate family), it's very difficult to imagine the absolute maliciousness and cruelty done to
                fellow family members.

                BOTTOM LINE: Narcissists do not care about anything except getting what they want. Now.

                At their core is a deep-seated rage. There is no conscience or empathy to appeal to.

                And, yes, it's only by the power of the Lord Jesus Christ that one can see the truth, disengage, and
                start to heal.

                When a suspected narcissist is the leader of your Country... at the controls...
                What do we do?

                Pray!

                gin
                Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy flight!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by OnlyHIM! View Post
                  Glad you pointed this out about what Obama is doing. I just want to say this. No one so far has been able to explain to me why Congress, the States, the general public for that matter, is not doing anything to confront Obama's complete disregard of the US Constitution or even some of our laws. I am beside myself in awe that the is no action to confront or try and challange him at all! Am I missing something? Is he actually allowed to violate the constitution and break the law?

                  Something is very strange about this particular situation.
                  The corruption in the upper levels of our federal and state governments is so deep and bad, the military are the only ones that can stop this thing. Congress, the individual state Sec of States, and the judicial system is stonewalling every attempt to remove Obama because of his ineligibility and fraudulent documents, they truly do not represent us any longer, none of them do. I have heard or read at least five times in the last couple months about many at the Pentagon being very worried about what's going on. Just today on Drudge, there was an article about a former Presidential speechwriter for Carter and LBJ talking about a military coup to remove this guy. Not sure if this website is against the rules or not:
                  http://thebladereport.com/2012/03/25...ld-oust-obama/

                  Like I said, this isn't even the first time I've heard this being talked about, there are alot of alternative media personalities with Pentagon insider connections that have said military intervention is seriously being contemplated.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SoThankful View Post
                    The corruption in the upper levels of our federal and state governments is so deep and bad, the military are the only ones that can stop this thing. Congress, the individual state Sec of States, and the judicial system is stonewalling every attempt to remove Obama because of his ineligibility and fraudulent documents, they truly do not represent us any longer, none of them do. I have heard or read at least five times in the last couple months about many at the Pentagon being very worried about what's going on. Just today on Drudge, there was an article about a former Presidential speechwriter for Carter and LBJ talking about a military coup to remove this guy.

                    Like I said, this isn't even the first time I've heard this being talked about, there are alot of alternative media personalities with Pentagon insider connections that have said military intervention is seriously being contemplated.
                    I believe you are right that the only thing stopping a whole entire overthrow of traditional America is our military, which is mostly made up of good Christian men & women (again I say mostly). That's why the traitor-in-chief has done everything he can to either stonewall them or flat out replace them (DADT repeal and removal/silencing of Christian Chaplains). I have no doubt our CIA has had contigency plans in place for decades in case of such a creature taking over the reigns of the White House. Every day that passes by our Republic decays further.
                    John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

                    John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

                    Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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                    • #25
                      Honestly, - imo for whatever it is worth, - I don't see a coup happening, at least not while we are here. If it were to happen however, - that would suggest to me that he was the chosen puppet of a much bigger plan, put in place to take the fall if necessary in order for TPTB to continue with their plan. Either way, - the result is the same, so TPTB can't lose. (at least not until Jesus returns).
                      Regardless, it looks to me like they pretty much have all their bases covered for what they are trying to accomplish. We have a choice of our current leader, his twin brother Romney, or coup. All of them will lead us to the same result in the end imo, creating the scenario needed to bring about the plans of TPTB.

                      I'm not by any means datesetting, - but just saying.....the writing is on the wall, and by the way things are looking.......surely we'll be going to our real home soon. Things are lining up rather quickly it seems.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Praying View Post
                        Honestly, - imo for whatever it is worth, - I don't see a coup happening, at least not while we are here. If it were to happen however, - that would suggest to me that he was the chosen puppet of a much bigger plan, put in place to take the fall if necessary in order for TPTB to continue with their plan. Either way, - the result is the same, so TPTB can't lose. (at least not until Jesus returns).
                        Regardless, it looks to me like they pretty much have all their bases covered for what they are trying to accomplish. We have a choice of our current leader, his twin brother Romney, or coup. All of them will lead us to the same result in the end imo, creating the scenario needed to bring about the plans of TPTB.

                        I'm not by any means datesetting, - but just saying.....the writing is on the wall, and by the way things are looking.......surely we'll be going to our real home soon. Things are lining up rather quickly it seems.
                        Actually what I just mentioned in another thread, if you search for an article called 'You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Part 3', though not Christian, is one of the most powerful articles I've read on how precarious the world sits financially, economically, politically, militarily and socially. There seems to be an abundance of indicators of the signs of the times we live in and perhaps, the world at tipping point!
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                        Luke 21:28

                        "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near"

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by $teve View Post
                          Actually what I just mentioned in another thread, if you search for an article called 'You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Part 3', though not Christian, is one of the most powerful articles I've read on how precarious the world sits financially, economically, politically, militarily and socially. There seems to be an abundance of indicators of the signs of the times we live in and perhaps, the world at tipping point!

                          Thanks Steve. You mean an internet search, right? I tried searching here, - didn't find it.
                          It sounds like an article I would definitely be interested in reading. I agree, there is indeed an abundance of indicators that we are very possibly at the tipping point.

                          Come Lord Jesus!!!

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                          • #28
                            Sure can praying, only a lot of the places that cite the article don't provide the full version (just tested a google search myself) so just ensure you follow any links to the complete work. I should mention too, the article sites a work from the 1990s called The Fourth Turning which on the surface may appear like a crystal ball exercise but it isn't. The authors explored historical economic cycles and events to chart possible future events. Nontheless, the article I mention above is a discreet article that examines the current financial crisis, together with the mounting US debt and a number of other indicators that should give cause for concern to anyone that the world really is standing at a precipice.
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                            Luke 21:28

                            "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by $teve View Post
                              Sure can praying, only a lot of the places that cite the article don't provide the full version (just tested a google search myself) so just ensure you follow any links to the complete work. I should mention too, the article sites a work from the 1990s called The Fourth Turning which on the surface may appear like a crystal ball exercise but it isn't. The authors explored historical economic cycles and events to chart possible future events. Nontheless, the article I mention above is a discreet article that examines the current financial crisis, together with the mounting US debt and a number of other indicators that should give cause for concern to anyone that the world really is standing at a precipice.
                              Thanks Steve. Very informative. Praying we'll all be going home soon!

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                              • #30
                                The Term "New World Order"

                                I was surprised while channel surfing and stopped at a "3 Stooges" movie and they showed 3 Japanese Soldiers and some man with a European accent and he said to the stooges "Stop I command you in the name of the New Wolrd Order!" This movie was from 1944. The Elite must have been using this term in private circles for quite some time it would appear.
                                John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.Matthew 5:23-24 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

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