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  • Originally posted by Steve53 View Post
    Re-read his post - the size reference (and difference was noted).
    This was the part that I was referring to, as I did not understand it:
    "Van Impe used to say this was because in the earlier stages of the EU that their boundries were same as those of the Holy Roman Empire under Charlemagne. "

    The EU is vastly larger than the HRE, or the Frankish Empire under Charlemagne as far I know.

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    • Originally posted by Duken View Post
      This was the part that I was referring to, as I did not understand it:
      "Van Impe used to say this was because in the earlier stages of the EU that their boundries were same as those of the Holy Roman Empire under Charlemagne. "

      The EU is vastly larger than the HRE, or the Frankish Empire under Charlemagne as far I know.
      You're missing that "earlier stages" was the qualifier.
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      • Originally posted by Steve53 View Post
        You're missing that "earlier stages" was the qualifier.
        I was pointing out his comment on Van Impe.

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        • Originally posted by Duken View Post
          I was pointing out his comment on Van Impe.
          Now your point seems to have been lost....
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          • Revived Roman Empire questions

            Can someone point to information as to why America is not the revived Roman Empire?

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            • America wasn't discovered until well after the Roman Empire fell....? The Roman Empire consisted of specific geographical land areas.

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              • But how does that mean that prophecy doesn't point to the "Empire" in nature and not necessarily exact location? I'm not arguing, just want to further my understanding.

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                • Originally posted by zimmerdesign View Post
                  Can someone point to information as to why America is not the revived Roman Empire?
                  Originally posted by Frank View Post
                  America wasn't discovered until well after the Roman Empire fell....? The Roman Empire consisted of specific geographical land areas.
                  I have some original personal thoughts on this topic. The Roman Empire consisted of a specific geographical region. In addition to modern day Europe, it included northern Africa and parts of what is now called the middle east. It's heart and origin was Europe. I've considered the possibility that today's Europe and the modern day offshoots from Europe, principally North America, Australia, and New Zealand and any other colonized areas I'm missing could be the heart and origin of the revived Roman Empire.

                  It's just something I've considered, I can't back it up with anything, but I personally consider that a possibility.

                  After the Ezekiel 38-39 war, much of the east's opposing forces against the west will be obliterated, giving a lot of room for the revival of the Roman Empire should it currently be the part of the world that is often called the west. It seems that it is principally the western nations that are fervently seeking a OWG. When Russia and its allies are pummeled in Ezekiel 38-39, I don't think they'll be in a position to argue with whatever the west (reviving Roman Empire) decides to do. China may still be a problem, but maybe that'll be one of the regions that the AC has to deal with a bit later to consolidate his global authority.

                  That's just an unsubstantiated theory that's been running through my mind as a possibility.
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                  • Originally posted by Tall Timbers View Post
                    I have some original personal thoughts on this topic. The Roman Empire consisted of a specific geographical region. In addition to modern day Europe, it included northern Africa and parts of what is now called the middle east. It's heart and origin was Europe. I've considered the possibility that today's Europe and the modern day offshoots from Europe, principally North America, Australia, and New Zealand and any other colonized areas I'm missing could be the heart and origin of the revived Roman Empire.
                    You could include Central & South America in that list also, since their religion/language/culture is a strong off-shoot of Western European culture.
                    I spent most of my childhood in Northern Mexico. Most of the people living there are not of indigenous descent but of European heritage. I have cousins with Italian and French ancestry down there.
                    This is a fascinating subject to discuss.
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                    • Some would argue Rome fell, but got back up and has been staggering around like a pummeled boxer or a drunk.

                      Although evolving, torn apart by wars, spreading influence throughout the world, Rome is still close to the reins.

                      Perhaps it will be the muslims and other radicals that will so distance man from religion, that the AC will rise to power not by influence,

                      but by demand. The people will want him, they will plead for him, and what better place than the godless atheistic center - Europe.



                      America is an experiment. One about to explode, but don't worry, there is enough European influence to rein in this bastard child and all her toys too.

                      If this nation would seek God, He might grant a prolonging of her days, but as we see in Prophetic Word, there will come a time of rejection and judgment - not for America alone, but all nations.
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                      • I like Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum's explanation that it is not the Roman Empire but the Empire of Imperialism. The Roman Empire was just the first stage of it and it has continued to today in its East/West configuration (the two legs).

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                        • Originally posted by zimmerdesign View Post
                          Can someone point to information as to why America is not the revived Roman Empire?
                          Just a thought, but maybe this would answer your question; Revelation 8:7.

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                          • Really good commentaries by Jack Kelley on the Revived roman Empire.

                            https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times...ng-in-the-way/

                            https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times...lam-or-part-1/

                            https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times...lam-or-part-2/

                            don't forget some people think it could be Islamic, part of the Roman empire encompassed what is now Islamic areas.

                            I think we shall soon see what happens. It cannot be far off.
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                            You have put off my sackcloth and clothed me with gladness,
                            12 To the end that my glory may sing praise to You and not be silent.
                            O LORD my God, I will give thanks to You forever.



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                            • Originally posted by Tall Timbers View Post
                              I have some original personal thoughts on this topic. The Roman Empire consisted of a specific geographical region. In addition to modern day Europe, it included northern Africa and parts of what is now called the middle east. It's heart and origin was Europe. I've considered the possibility that today's Europe and the modern day offshoots from Europe, principally North America, Australia, and New Zealand and any other colonized areas I'm missing could be the heart and origin of the revived Roman Empire.

                              It's just something I've considered, I can't back it up with anything, but I personally consider that a possibility.

                              After the Ezekiel 38-39 war, much of the east's opposing forces against the west will be obliterated, giving a lot of room for the revival of the Roman Empire should it currently be the part of the world that is often called the west. It seems that it is principally the western nations that are fervently seeking a OWG. When Russia and its allies are pummeled in Ezekiel 38-39, I don't think they'll be in a position to argue with whatever the west (reviving Roman Empire) decides to do. China may still be a problem, but maybe that'll be one of the regions that the AC has to deal with a bit later to consolidate his global authority.

                              That's just an unsubstantiated theory that's been running through my mind as a possibility.
                              Hi TT! But Eze. 38-39 isn't the end war is it...where they come against Israel? This has always confused me. Thanks!
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                              • Originally posted by twisty58 View Post
                                Hi TT! But Eze. 38-39 isn't the end war is it...where they come against Israel? This has always confused me. Thanks!
                                I don't believe that Eze 38-39 is the "end war". Without doing any studying up I do believe there are a couple different wars that involve the demon reference to Gog which works through a person to do his deeds. I believe the Eze 38-39 war could happen before or after the rapture, and I think it'll occur before the start of Tribulation... there are differing views on that.

                                After taking a look at the Bible I can see that the 2nd reference (the first being the Ezekiel 38-39 war) to Gog and Magog is in reference to the battle at the end of the Millennial Reign where Israel is once again invaded and Jesus puts a quick end to it.
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