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  • #31
    Originally posted by cjean View Post
    When this was first happening, it was reported that the group was threatening Muslims. NOW it is said they were plotting to kill police. That is pretty nonsensical on it's face. I am not sure I believe it. Especially with the obvious attempts to paint the group as a Radical CHRISTIAN Militia group.

    There is too great an effort to smear good people going on for me to take anything at it's face.
    I've been kind of wondering just how much of the story has been fabricated as well. I guess we'll find out when it goes to trial and we can hear what the accused statements are and we see some evidence... if we do hear or see anything. I just find it odd that with all the liberals attacking conservative christians trying to put us in a bad light, that low and behold, all of a sudden this happens... a "conservative christian militia" who were going to kill police officers. Something just doesn't taste right about the whole thing. And also... here they had muslims helping with the case, yet I don't see the FBI doing squat about the islamic terrorist cells here in the U.S which is absolutely maddening!
    “Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.”- Colossians 3:12

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Meg View Post
      ... Never mind. Anyone can claim to be a Christian, the real difference is in how we live our faith.

      Amen to that!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bjhere68 View Post
        The only thing we should all be careful about is believing what we're told in the news. Could they really have been planning to shoot police? Maybe....could the government be making up a reason to take down a group...maybe.

        One thing we should all know by now is you can't believe what you see and you can't believe what you hear because most of it is false.
        I agree that we should be very careful about believing the accusations against "Christians" or "Christian Groups". There are lots of wacko groups out there doing crazy things, but when the organized government supported cleanup of True Believers begins they won't imprison us with truthful charges. We'll be child molesters, murderers, conspirators to all kinds of filthy things... it isn't hard to plant evidence and once the general non-believing population sees True Believers as pain-in-the-neck wackos they'll take us into custody, plant enough evidence to get a conviction, and put us out of the way.

        I sure do hope the rapture occurs very quickly, for all kinds of reasons!
        Tall Timbers, Imperfect but forgiven

        3 trees

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        • #34
          I must be missing something in the translation here. Why are all of you taking ownership of the idea of "conservative Christian militant"? The conservative Christians I know are politically militant, but they don't own handguns, let alone heavy weapons or plot to murder police officers! I thought there was a difference between "Christian Militias" and "Conservative Christians" like there's a difference between "Emergent Churches" and honest teaching. I honestly don't get this at all! And I honestly don't consider those backwoods gun toters genuine Christians. Sounds like about the only thing they didn't have many of is Bibles. They do have a web site, but their forum has been bombed by some truly fearsome trolls. The web site home page isn't exactly my idea of a family friendly Christian witness... I honestly don't understand why some people are trying to defend this thing. I find this deeply troubling...

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          • #35
            So could it end up being bad for us anyway, as public perception of "our kind" gets worse? Yeah, it's possible.
            This kind of event will just make people happier when all of us "right-wing, Christian, extremist, conspiracy-theorist nutjobs" disappear.

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            • #36
              they are going to use this to demonize real Christians.
              There you have it!!!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Meg View Post
                I must be missing something in the translation here. Why are all of you taking ownership of the idea of "conservative Christian militant"? The conservative Christians I know are politically militant, but they don't own handguns, let alone heavy weapons or plot to murder police officers!....
                Meg, I don't know anyone, especially True Believers, whom I would classify as politically militant, but almost everyone I know in my state, at least own handguns and rifles.

                As for this group that's been busted, I'll leave their judgment to God. The news about them paints them as nuts and they may well be... but as another said, we really can't believe what we read about them in the press. And no matter what, the press is milking the "christian" angle for all it's worth, prepping the average Joe to consider Christians to be nuts and possibly dangerous.
                Tall Timbers, Imperfect but forgiven

                3 trees

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                • #38
                  Yet another reason for the world to look down on conservative Christians. Humans love to judge the whole of a group because of the actions of one person.

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                  • #39
                    In my opinion, this group was used as an example. Overthrow the government?? You must be joking. This does not even approach the level of lunacy as the Waco incident many years ago. The Hutaree has been around for some time, but only now that an 'undercover informant' feeds info to his handlers do they move on the group. I am highly suspicious.

                    I for one will reserve judgment until some hard evidence is presented. The liberal media can spin this all they want. Innocent until proven guilty still means something in this country.

                    Now that the obama administration has cut their teeth on catching "conservative Christian militia types," they will move up to taking on more visible groups of higher propaganda value.

                    And by the way, where is the Fort Hood shooter?? That incident has all but disappeared. Now THAT was a true threat to the government.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tall Timbers View Post
                      Meg, I don't know anyone, especially True Believers, whom I would classify as politically militant, but almost everyone I know in my state, at least own handguns and rifles.

                      As for this group that's been busted, I'll leave their judgment to God. The news about them paints them as nuts and they may well be... but as another said, we really can't believe what we read about them in the press. And no matter what, the press is milking the "christian" angle for all it's worth, prepping the average Joe to consider Christians to be nuts and possibly dangerous.
                      Exactly, we really don't know what they are really being arrested for and if its true. Meg, its very possible for any Christian to be painted in a negative light. We'll probably be seeing more of this type of fabricated news. Persecution is here!

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                      • #41
                        My my ...... Satan sure has been a busy boy, hasn't he.

                        Well I have news for those who choose to do his bidding: God and His followers win in the end!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by saved by Grace View Post
                          well,this is the harm created in a non biblical mid trib,post trib Rapture.sadly so many have bought into that lie.i was a member of another message board but they are pre wrath or midtrib.i don't post there any more.i even pulled up verses that support pre trib but i was mocked for my effort to show them the truth.
                          I totally agree with this!

                          And I think the longer we are here, the more of those that are iffy pre-trib will begin to scoff and start to lean toward the other two. If that happens, and with the growing disdain for the government, and considering that many Christians did vote for Obama...perhaps many who don't know about the Rapture-- and now they are angry and ready to fight back...just too ripe a picking for some wayward militant group to come along and give them an outlet for their anger and no hope of escape....except by way of the sword.....yep...I can see that.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by watchman View Post
                            With the arrest of the hutaree, could this be the beginning? Opinions?
                            Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

                            Is this the scripture you are referring to? If so, then no, it is not happening. The Rapture has not happened yet and the Antichrist has not been revealed. God allowing satan to wage war with the saints does not happen until further on in the tribulation.

                            We do need to be watchful because things are being put in place.

                            No true Christian alive today will see any part of the tribulation. We will be outta here and once we are with the Lord we will be too busy with him to know what is going on, on the earth.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Perpetualbug View Post
                              I agree with Midwest Mama - the world will see this as either another example of those nutjob christians or go the "Christians are hypocrites" road. Either way - can't be good for us.
                              True and then you have those who are willing to be duped into any lie, as long as said lie justifies their desire to hate us
                              My Rapture/Left Behind Message

                              For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast.

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                              • #45
                                Now, more than any other time, we need Jesus. We need patience, discernment and endurance.

                                Lord, I pray that You will cover Your children during this time and that You will give us these things that we need. You are the King and the giver of good things. Thank you, Jesus for your love. Amen."
                                1 Thessalonians 5:4 (New International Version)

                                4But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.

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