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    The House passed both the Senate Health Care bill and the House Reconciliation Act H.R. 4872 on March 21, 2010. The Senate bill goes to the President for signing and the Reconciliation bill, HR4872, goes to the Senate for approval. There are two items with dire consequences included in the Reconciliation bill.

    The first is mandatory RFID chip implants. The gist of the wording in the bill provides setting up a registry for collecting patient data, such as medical records, insurance claims, pharmacy data, etc. The wording in the bill leaves open any additional data collection as required. The timetable for implementation is within 3 years. The wording is very vague, but the only way the registry can be established with the data they plan on collecting is with everyone having the chip.

    The second is establishing a National Health ID/Debit card with Smart chip/RFID technology, linked to Bank accounts for the purpose of ID verification as well as patient info, along with instant debit from Bank account to pay for co-pays, etc. The wording leaves open the option to use this concurrently with RFID chip implant. The timetable for implementation is within 2 years.

    Here is H.R 4872: http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/1...2_reported.pdf

    The RFID section is located on page 1013. In Table of Contents it is Subdivision C, Title V, Subtitle C- National medical device registry. You’re looking for Class II implantable device. That’s a RFID chip. Here is FDA info on Class II:
    http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Medical.../ucm072191.pdf

    The National Health ID/Debit section is on page 57. In Table of Contents it is Subdivision A. Title I, Subtitle G- Early Investments. Further it is Sec 163, Administrative Simplification.

    There is still time to voice your opposition to these civil right intrusions. Call your Senators and let them know how you feel.

    I’ve been chomping at the bit for the last two days to get this posted. I didn’t realize registration in the forum was not instant…

    On the lighter side of things….to borrow a story line from Star Trek “The Trouble With Tribbles” is….they lead to Tribble-lation!

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    MOTB, anyone?

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    • #3
      All I have to say is WOW and be Rapture Ready!

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      • #4
        Is anyone really surprised by this? I'm certainly not. It's all part of a larger agenda... and prophesy unveiling itself.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lainy68 View Post
          Is anyone really surprised by this? I'm certainly not. It's all part of a larger agenda... and prophesy unveiling itself.
          I'm not surprised. At all. It's just insane how fast this is all happening at.

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          • #6
            I keep telling myself these things couldn't *possibly* mean what we think... it's just so surreal to see these things unfolding!! The news has been leaving me speechless.

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            • #7
              thank you for posting this info, and letting us have a heads up on this one.

              have a blessed day!

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              • #8
                First time I clicked on the link it said invalid. Second time it says valid hmmmmm

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                • #9
                  I read that section, but to be honest, I can't say I totally understood what I read. That alone should be illegal. We should be able to read it and completely understand it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Megan View Post
                    MOTB, anyone?
                    Don't jump the gun. The mark is a worship item. This is just arbitrary garbage that the feds want to ram under our skin because Democrats exist.

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                    • #11
                      Maybe I'm missing something. WHAT "chip implants"??

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SPYDYR View Post
                        Don't jump the gun. The mark is a worship item. This is just arbitrary garbage that the feds want to ram under our skin because Democrats exist.
                        Oh, I'm not saying that THAT in itself is the MOTB. I'm just saying, it's similar and makes me think of it. Or, it could eventually lead up to it.

                        I probably should have mentioned that. Haha.

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                        • #13
                          I thought that you might be mis-reading what this section said. I thought that it was probably referring to a National Registry for implanted devices such as pacemakers, sub-dermal hearing devices, shunts..etc..

                          I stand corrected

                          With a little digging through FDA and finding out exactly what they are referring to ( as a Class II Implantable) and the requirement of how YOU MUST GET THIS if you are getting government health assistance...HOLD YOUR SEATS--THE OP WAS DEAD ON !!

                          Read This.......The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

                          14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
                          formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
                          16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
                          17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
                          18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
                          19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
                          20 Secretary"

                          What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see...

                          Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

                          This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky if you're a Govt Control Libtard) ones in this case. Children who are "born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage" will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children's Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent. Eventually everyone will be implanted with a chip. And with the price and coverage of the public option being so competitive with the private companies, the private company may not survive.

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                          • #14
                            If this chip implant is not to take place for 3 years.....

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                            • #15
                              The second is establishing a National Health ID/Debit card with Smart chip/RFID technology, linked to Bank accounts for the purpose of ID verification as well as patient info, along with instant debit from Bank account to pay for co-pays, etc. The wording leaves open the option to use this concurrently with RFID chip implant. The timetable for implementation is within 2 years.

                              This will NOT take 2 years to implement it has already started. I have a "Health Savings Account", for use to cover expenses that are not covered by my HC policy. As a result of signing up for this Pre-Tax HSA account through my employer I was issued an Allegiance Benefit Plan Management, Inc. "Health Care Debit Card". Received it in the mail a few days ago. Note the company name: "Allegiance"

                              The sticker on the front of my card says:

                              "This is a limited access card authorized for qualified purchases, as set forth in your cardholder agreement. It cannot be used at all Mastercard acceptance locations or at any ATM. Please keep your receiepts in case the IRS asks for them"

                              This card can be used at any Healthcare Merchant or Non-Healthcare merchant who has an "Industry Standard Healthcare Inventory System" created in accordance with IRS guidelines to electronically approve purchases.

                              I am looking at this card and think it may be the pre-cursor to the one quoted above, because I cannot see a chip in it, however I know chip circuits can be paper thin and invisible to the user. However, this card is not linked to my Checking Account, it is linked to my Health Care Savings account. (it has my personal data programmed on it, it does NOT have my medical records in it)... I sure hope thats all thats on there... This is a VERY convenient card, I go to the pharmacy to get a prescription filled and use this card to pay for it. No docs to fill out or submit for HSA reimbursement. Its the convenience that scares me, people will get so used to this type of commerce, that when they do STICK a CHIP into it or into your body, they will have already been conditioned from the "convenience" perspective, meaning that we will become so susceptable to allowing these changes to take place.... why? Because it's convenient....

                              People we are that close, one reason they like to issue these cards (with the IRS managing them) is to reduce paper trails (make everything electronic)... This, in my opinion, is "Phase 1" of an overall process to get everybody's data into electronic format (HC, Personal, Financial and into "1" database managed by the IRS)... I had no clue the IRS was managing this program.

                              The IRS already has everyone who pays taxes information in electronic format, but at some time they will "parse and normalize" all this data into the National Health Care Inventory Database. The IRS (GOVERNMENT) has been tasked to manage Obamacare from an "enforcement of HC" perspective. Well the IRS is already managing my HSA account. Ladies and Gentlemen we are almost there... and its rapidly happening underneath our noses. The Dems HAD TO GET this bill passed for more reasons than just socializing HC for 32 million people... There is a sinister agenda in place and this is NOT a conspiracy theory... The GOV may not see it as sinister but our Bibles spell it out as EVIL.

                              Yes I think the "Chip" is the final phase and the authorization to use it and force it on us is NOW in place. If they can FORCE you to purchase a medical policy, if they can force you to fill out the Census forms, if they can force you to pay taxes.... The AC (World GOV) can FORCE you to take a chip or face the earthly penalties. The AC's mandatory economic system does not take place till mid-trib, thus we as pre-trib believers in Christ will not be here. But those who are here and accept Christ will have to either accept the "convenience" chip (in whatever form) or pay the earthly penalty of death while rejoicing in the gift of eternity with Christ... Easy choice huh? Most will choose "convenience"....

                              The media has barely touched this subject, but I suspect as more and more pieces come together it will become a very hot topic soon...

                              Keep your eyes looking upward folks our redemption draweth nigh...
                              The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me.... Living for Jesus - Listening for the Trumpet

                              :snoopy

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