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  • Originally posted by farmgirl View Post
    Not to mention the money the US has spent there putting in some pretty high tech cabling. And the lovely embassy we built for the future world leaders to stay at.
    Our tax dollars hard at work... making sure the future AC has a great place to rule from.


    • Babylon at the British Museum: When Nebuchadnezzar's ziggurat was the centre of the world

      A new exhibition explores the ancient city of Babylon - location of the great Biblical tower, and the origin of our moden misgivings about cities.

      (short video at link)

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      • Originally posted by dramama View Post
        I saw a segment today on FOXBusiness channel about the govt trying to decide whether to put in land line telephone ifrastructure all over the country or just go with cell phone towers...can't find a link yet, maybe later on in the day....

        new Iraq amusement park

        Chuck Missler has connections with some intelligence from inside Iraq that a communications "outpost" is being constructed (By Europe) 20 or so miles from the US Embassy - in Babylon! It's still sort of a secret, but it's obviously geared up for something, or someone!


        • Iraq's damaged Babylon hopes for revival

          Beneath a patch of stony, desert ground on the River Euphrates, surrounded by date palms, many of the secrets of the cradle of civilisation are still waiting to be uncovered.


          • Can ancient Babylon be saved?

            Now, for the first time, global institutions led by the U.N. are thoroughly documenting the damage and how to fix it. A UNESCO report due out early next year will cite Saddam’s construction but focus, at the Iraqi government’s request, on damage done by U.S. forces from April to September 2003, and the Polish troops deployed there for more than a year afterward.

            The U.S., which turned Babylon into a military base, says the looting would have been worse but for the troops’ presence. The U.S. also says it will help rehabilitate Babylon, funding an effort by the World Monuments Fund and Iraq’s State Board of Antiquities and Heritage, but has yet to release precise funding figures.


            • Has War Damage Hidden Babylon’s Ancient Secrets?

              The United Nations is leading efforts to restore the city of Babylon, but experts wonder whether it sustained too much damage during the Iraq War.


              • London Shows Babylon's Legacy

                Not many of us have been to Babylon. For the last five years, its remains in southern Iraq have been partly covered by a military base. Yet we've all heard a lot about it -- the Hanging Gardens, the Whore and the Tower (admittedly of Babel, but it comes to the same thing).

                For a town that peaked over 2,500 years ago, Babylon still has quite a reputation. The British Museum's new exhibition ``Babylon: Myth and Reality,'' which has arrived in London after stops in Berlin and Paris, clearly has a meaty theme. The result is a thought-provoking little show -- much more compact than the Berlin version -- focusing on the metropolis of Nebuchadnezzar (605-562 B.C.)


                • The US could have saved a LOT of time and money if they'd only followed The Plan:

                  Jerm 51:58 Thus saith the Lord of Hosts: The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, and her high gates shall be burned with fire; and the people shall labor in vain, and the folk in the fire and they shall be weary...v62 Then shalt thou say, O Lord, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate forever. v63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of the Euphrates. v64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her; and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah. The Euphrates is not mentioned again until Revelation, which states: Rev 9: Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. and Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

                  I've heard more than one preacher say that the oil that runs under Babylon, God could easily ignite it and burn it as prophecied. It will be destroyed, and NEVER be inhabited again, unlike Egypt who will be a blessing in the Millenium, they will return after 40 years after their destruction. Syria will also be a blessing in the Millenium...but Babylon is doomed eternally.


                  • Babylon: A tower of strength

                    Apart from Sodom or Gomorrah, is there a city in human history with a worse reputation than Babylon?I can’t think of one. So deeply embedded in our assumptions is the squalor of Nebuchadnezzar’s capital, we can call a shoddy TV drama with lots of rumpy-pumpy in it Hotel Babylon, and everyone will know what to expect. It’s quite an achievement. The idea that Babylon was a sink of iniquity has penetrated to the deepest corners of the satellite schedules.

                    Babylon’s appalling reputation can be traced back to a single book.

                    I mean the Bible. That it happens to be the most extensively read book in the world is what gives the Babylon fantasy its remarkable reach. The destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians; the taking into captivity of the Jews; those sad psalmist laments about sitting by the rivers of Babylon, the Tigris and the Euphrates, and remembering Zion, have entered our global consciousness on a primary, Boney M level. Which is why the Babylonian hatred has survived more or less intact into our own times.

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                    • This is amazing info , awesome links , Thankyou !
                      Rebuilt Babylon will rise because God says it will ! ( And it's Happening! )
                      Rev 14:8
                      Rev 16:19
                      Rev 17:5
                      Rev 18:2
                      Rev 18:10
                      Rev 18:21

                      TIME IS SHORT !

                      Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. Eph 5:16
                      Last edited by jetway777; November 18th, 2008, 09:11 PM. Reason: typo


                      • DoD News Briefing with Col. James and CDR. Vranken from Iraq

                        Good morning. As stated earlier, I'm Colonel Tom James. I'm the commander of Task Force Vanguard, the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division. We're attached to Task Force Mountain in central Iraq.

                        Our brigade is arrayed across the Babil and Karbala provinces approximately 100 kilometers south of Baghdad along the southern avenues of approach into the capital city. Both of these provinces are under provincial Iraqi control.

                        We provide tactical overwatch in Babil province, partnered with the 31st Iraqi Army Brigade and the Babil police force. We stand in operational overwatch of the Karbala province with a military transition team, partnered with the 33rd Iraqi Army Brigade and a security element to escort the Provincial Reconstruction Team in Karbala.

                        There are five key points I'd like to make about the current situation in our area of responsibility.

                        First, the population feels secure, and the quality of life is improving.

                        Attacks are down from eight a day last year to less than two per week. When we arrived, the population could not move in 30 percent of our area of responsibility. They now enjoy freedom of movement throughout both provinces. The population believes in the Iraqi army and police, and no longer allows sanctuary to extremists.

                        The capabilities of the Iraqi security forces have improved dramatically over the last year, enhancing security and enabling positive and real growth in local economies and governments.

                        The second point: The Iraqi security forces are capable and competent. The Iraqi army and police have made great strides in terms of manning, equipping, basing and training. The Iraqi army is capable of conducting precise offensive operations, based on intelligence that they have personally generated. The army and the police work extremely well together, and the population believes in both organizations.

                        We continue to assist with training and provide reconnaissance and -- correction -- aviation assets as required.

                        The third point: Governance and economics continue to flourish in both provinces. The security situation allows the governors, provincial council leaders and directors general to routinely travel to north Babil and throughout Karbala, feats that were inconceivable only a year ago.

                        This -- (audio break) -- provincial leadership resulted in initiation of more than 100 government-sponsored projects in north Babil alone. Another 50 projects were facilitated by coalition forces but funded by ICERP, Iraqi money, applied at the local level.

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                        • Sifting reality from myth

                          For many, Babylon represents excess, greed and sexual licence, but its rich culture gave us the first numbers, law-making and astronomy, writes Mary Russell .

                          Outside the tall, ornate gates of the British Museum, tourists check their maps, taxis hoot, traffic lights change from red to green. Normality is here. But walk inside to the current exhibition, Babylon: Myth and Reality , and feel your blood chill as you step into the room dedicated to Belshazzar's Feast.

                          Belshazzar, the last king of Babylon, has invited 1,000 guests to a banquet which is shared with his wives and concubines. In the huge oil painting by Rembrandt we see them drink from gold goblets looted from the temple in Jerusalem by Belshazzar's father, Nebuchadnezzar. Suddenly, a human hand appears and we see it: the writing on the wall, there in front of us, the characters Hebrew, the language Aramaic.

                          "God has numbered the days of your reign," they say, "and brought it to an end." And with that, Babylon falls.

                          The Babylon myth in the Book of Genesis says that about 3,000 years ago a distant people started to build a tower that they planned would reach the heavens. Babel, it was called - the gate ("bab") of the god El or Bel, a deity related to our own Bealtaine, which itself means the fires of Bel. Bel also went under the name of Marduk, the god, perhaps not surprisingly, of accounting.

                          Babylon: did it exist, or was it a mythical place like Atlantis? In the exhibition we see the Mappa Mundi , and there it is - Babylon, straddling the Euphrates. The map, excavated in the 19th century, is made of clay and dates back to the sixth century BC.

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                          • This just continues to get more and more exciting from where I sit.


                            • Originally posted by Dani D View Post
                              a communications "outpost" is being constructed (By Europe) 20 or so miles from the US Embassy - in Babylon! It's still sort of a secret, but it's obviously geared up for something, or someone!
                              Very interesting info. If anyone can give links to any specific articles or websites mentioning this, please post them. Thanks.


                              • High-ranking Chaldean cleric from Iraq visits Metro Detroit

                                On a three-week tour of the United States, Cardinal Mar Emmanuel III Delly, the patriarch of Babylon, is meeting today with members of the largest Chaldean community outside of Iraq, here in Metro Detroit.

                                Delly, 81, is the highest ranking Eastern Catholic cleric in Iraq, and the titular leader of the oldest community of Christians in the world. He has remained in Iraq amid persecution of the Christian minorities, while other church leaders fled with hundreds of thousands of refugees.

                                He was injured by shattered glass in an attack in Iraq, shortly after his elevation to cardinal, in 2007.

                                "Being the spiritual superior of the community, it's important to ask him questions, especially because his chair is in Iraq," said Joseph Kassab, executive director of the Chaldean Federation of America, in Farmington Hills. "He is the only one who has not yet moved his chair from Iraq. He is very resilient and says he would rather stay with his people than to remove himself."