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  • Originally posted by yogi3939 View Post
    As bad as this looks and sounds, there is an even worse threat in a nearby volcano that has a history of erupting after the one I won't even try to write the name of and making it look like a pooter in a wind storm. If that happens we will be facing far worse restrictions on air travel for far longer and a climate change that could lead to massive famine from shorter growing seasons and crop failures.

    If that does indeed happen the only thing that could be worse would be for Yellowstone or one of the other super volcanos to erupt.
    I sure hope this won't be the case. I currently live in the Netherlands and I'll be going home (Curacao) this July for a much needed vacation. It's been 2 years since I've last seen my family and I miss them terribly

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    • Originally posted by yogi3939 View Post
      As bad as this looks and sounds, there is an even worse threat in a nearby volcano that has a history of erupting after the one I won't even try to write the name of and making it look like a pooter in a wind storm. If that happens we will be facing far worse restrictions on air travel for far longer and a climate change that could lead to massive famine from shorter growing seasons and crop failures.

      If that does indeed happen the only thing that could be worse would be for Yellowstone or one of the other super volcanos to erupt.
      I hadn't thought about the effects this would have on the food supply. This really is bigger than just affecting travel.

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      • Originally posted by yogi3939 View Post
        As bad as this looks and sounds, there is an even worse threat in a nearby volcano that has a history of erupting after the one I won't even try to write the name of and making it look like a pooter in a wind storm. If that happens we will be facing far worse restrictions on air travel for far longer and a climate change that could lead to massive famine from shorter growing seasons and crop failures.

        If that does indeed happen the only thing that could be worse would be for Yellowstone or one of the other super volcanos to erupt.
        You are thinking of Katla a much more serious volcano. Every time this current volcano has erupted in the past it has led to an eruption of Katla

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        • curisland - I had to google to find curacacao- I'd never heard of it. It looks like an interesting place! I'm kind of wondering why I've heard of Aruba but not Curacao since it's bigger. So what is like in the Netherlands and Curacao end times awareness-wise? are there alot of Christians ? How did you find RR? I hope you don't get offended I'm not trying to be nosey

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          • Originally posted by yogi3939 View Post
            As bad as this looks and sounds, there is an even worse threat in a nearby volcano that has a history of erupting after the one I won't even try to write the name of and making it look like a pooter in a wind storm. If that happens we will be facing far worse restrictions on air travel for far longer and a climate change that could lead to massive famine from shorter growing seasons and crop failures.

            If that does indeed happen the only thing that could be worse would be for Yellowstone or one of the other super volcanos to erupt.
            Quite true; I've heard about this here and there. We can only .

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            • Ice cap thaw may awaken Icelandic volcanoes - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63E3Y220100416

              (Reuters) - A thaw of Iceland's ice caps in coming decades caused by climate change may trigger more volcanic eruptions by removing a vast weight and freeing magma from deep below ground, scientists said on Friday.

              They said there was no sign that the current eruption from below the Eyjafjallajokull glacier that has paralysed flights over northern Europe was linked to global warming. The glacier is too small and light to affect local geology.

              "Our work suggests that eventually there will be either somewhat larger eruptions or more frequent eruptions in Iceland in coming decades," said Freysteinn Sigmundsson, a vulcanologist at the University of Iceland.

              "Global warming melts ice and this can influence magmatic systems," he told Reuters. The end of the Ice Age 10,000 years ago coincided with a surge in volcanic activity in Iceland, apparently because huge ice caps thinned and the land rose.

              "We believe the reduction of ice has not been important in triggering this latest eruption," he said of Eyjafjallajokull. "The eruption is happening under a relatively small ice cap."

              Carolina Pagli, a geophysicist at the University of Leeds in England, said there were risks that climate change could also trigger volcanic eruptions or earthquakes in places such as Mount Erebus in Antarctica, the Aleutian islands of Alaska or Patagonia in South America.

              MAGMA

              "The effects would be biggest with ice-capped volcanoes," she said. "If you remove a load that is big enough you will also have an effect at depths on magma production."

              She and Sigmundsson wrote a 2008 paper in the scientific journal Geophysical Research Letters about possible links between global warming and Icelandic volcanoes.

              That report said that about 10 percent of Iceland's biggest ice cap, Vatnajokull, has melted since 1890 and the land nearby was rising about 25 millimetres (0.98 inch) a year, bringing shifts in geological stresses.

              They estimated that the thaw had led to the formation of 1.4 cubic km (0.3 cubic mile) of magma deep below ground over the past century.

              At high pressures such as under an ice cap, they reckon that rocks cannot expand to turn into liquid magma even if they are hot enough. "As the ice melts the rock can melt because the pressure decreases," she said.

              Sigmundsson said that monitoring of the Vatnajokull volcano since 2008 suggested that the 2008 estimate for magma generation was "probably a minimum estimate. It can be somewhat larger."

              He said that melting ice seemed the main way in which climate change, blamed mainly on use of fossil fuels, could have knock-on effects on geology. The U.N. climate panel says that global warming will cause more floods, droughts and rising seas.

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              • Originally posted by Zerozx View Post


                Ice cap thaw may awaken Icelandic volcanoes - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63E3Y220100416

                X two!!!!!

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                • Originally posted by nanny View Post
                  curisland - I had to google to find curacacao- I'd never heard of it. It looks like an interesting place! I'm kind of wondering why I've heard of Aruba but not Curacao since it's bigger. So what is like in the Netherlands and Curacao end times awareness-wise? are there alot of Christians ? How did you find RR? I hope you don't get offended I'm not trying to be nosey
                  Lol, you're not being nosy and you didn't offend me!

                  Curacao is indeed less famous than Aruba.

                  There are many Catholics in both Curacao and the Netherlands. There are also many Muslims here in Holland. I noticed that the younger generation is more atheist-like though.

                  As for the end times, my parents told me that it's hotter than usual in Curacao since the last few years. Plus the government is thinking about accepting gay marriage just like the Netherlands. Thank God many people are against that though.
                  Last winter was unbelievably cold here in Holland! I heard that the last time it's been so cold was 1986 and that this year we'll have a 'hot winter'. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
                  At school we're starting to get a lot of courses about globalization (sounds more like propaganda to me).
                  Morally... well... in my opinion it's going from bad to worse here. People just don't fear God anymore. Tv programs are filled with perversion and what not, that's why I hardly watch it anymore.

                  That's all I could think of for now lol. though I don't want to get any more off topic hehehe

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                  • I just heard on the radio, that the air flight delays and cancellations is costing the industry 200 million dollars a day.....

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                    • Originally posted by cocopea9052 View Post
                      I just heard on the radio, that the air flight delays and cancellations is costing the industry 200 million dollars a day.....
                      Volcanic ash costing airlines $200 million a day - http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...-million-a-day

                      A mountainous plume of ash generated by an Icelandic volcano is costing the global airline industry US$200 million a day in lost revenue, with no clear estimate on when regular service will resume that figure is expected to rise.

                      On Friday, the International Air Transport Association (IATA), a trade body that serves 230 airlines representing 93 per cent of air traffic, released an early estimate of the financial fallout from the eruption.

                      “At current levels of disruption, IATA’s initial and conservative estimate of the financial impact on airlines is in excess of US$200 million per day in lost revenues.

                      “In addition to lost revenues, airlines will incur added costs for re-routing of aircraft, care for stranded passengers and stranded aircraft at various ports.”

                      An IATA spokesperson said the revenue was only associated with daily revenues related to airspace what was closed and it was “too early to have calculated the additional costs.”

                      On Wednesday, the volcano beneath Iceland’s Eyjafjallajokull glacier erupted, pushing a cloud of ash and particles 6-9,000 metres into the air.

                      Concerns the microscopic particles could cause airplanes to malfunction resulted in the shut down of air space over Britain, Ireland, France, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Belgium. It has halted flights at Europe's two busiest airports — Heathrow in London and Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris — as well as dozens of other airports, 25 in France alone.

                      Planes are also grounded in Germany including Düsseldorf, Cologne, Hamburg, Berlin and the airspace around Frankfurt, and parts of Poland including Warsaw's airport.

                      On Friday, Eurocontrol, the European air traffic agency, said airline service was cut in half, with only 11,000 flights expected to operate in Europe - compared to the usual 28,000.

                      Air Canada has halted flights to London Heathrow, Paris Charles de Gaulle, Frankfurt, Munich, Zurich and Geneva.

                      The loss of the London route is probably costing Air Canada between $2-3 million a day, said Joseph R. D'Cruz with the Joseph L. Rotman School of Management with the University of Toronto.

                      “When they stop flying the loss in profits is small but the losses that come about because of fixed costs that are not being covered are very substantial,” said D’Cruz. “So it is pretty serious, but it is short-term.”

                      The flight to London is Air Canada’s most heavily travelled route, he said.

                      D’Cruz equated the temporary stoppage to a heavy winter storm and said while he doesn’t expect revenue generated through economy travel to suffer in the long term, the impact on business class will likely be more severe. When high-end flights are suddenly halted people explore other less costly travel or work options, often sticking with them in the long term, he said.

                      The eruption could translate into a 5 per cent decrease in business travel long-term, he said. Business class accounts for 50-60 per cent of Air Canada’s transatlantic flights, he said.

                      Douglas McNeill, a transportation analyst with Charles Stanley Securities in London, England, said larger European airlines, including British Airways, will lose more than $15.5 million every day their planes stay on the tarmac.

                      “This is an unusual event, but it is not completely without precedent because things like this are always happening in the aviation business,” said McNeill, who said airlines have a pool of cash to buffer short term disruptions.

                      “If the disruption continues for many more days then the financial damage will start to get a bit more painful, but for the time being it is limited.”

                      British Airways “has nearly ($3.1 billion) in the bank so the loss of ($15.5 million) is neither here nor there in terms of liquidity or solvency terms.”

                      He said the shutdown would need to go beyond a week for the airlines to start feeling serious pressure.

                      A year ago it would be different, he said. McNeill said there used to be a group of relatively weak players in the European airline industry, but high fuel prices and the recession squeezed them out.

                      “It was carnage,” he said.

                      “So the airlines that remain have had their business models tested in adversity and have shown themselves to be resilient.”

                      McNeill said on Friday, European airline stocks were “all off a little bit,” but described the declines as small falls when taken in context of an industry that has been enjoying a healthy run.

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                      • Originally posted by Zerozx View Post
                        Volcanic ash costing airlines $200 million a day -

                        http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...-million-a-day
                        Zero, you are just too good....too fast!

                        All I do is sneeze mention of a story and you go and find the scoop.....amazing!!!

                        Now, about these amazing abilities and the Rapture...........

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                        • Originally posted by cocopea9052 View Post
                          Zero, you are just too good....too fast!

                          All I do is sneeze mention of a story and you go and find the scoop.....amazing!!!

                          Now, about these amazing abilities and the Rapture...........
                          Haha. Well, I guess we'll have to promote someone else as a news czar for that.

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                          • Originally posted by cocopea9052 View Post
                            Zero, you are just too good....too fast!

                            All I do is sneeze mention of a story and you go and find the scoop.....amazing!!!


                            I usually try to find more details so I can get a better idea of what exactly is involved and I figure others on the board would also like to see more details, so I try to find something on whatever the topic may be and link to it.

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                            • Scandinavian airline, SAS, warns it may temporarily lay off 2,500 employees in Norway if more flights halted

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                              • Originally posted by Megan View Post
                                Haha. Well, I guess we'll have to promote someone else as a news czar for that.
                                Naw...that would be like a Date Setter Czar and we are not allowed to have those here...

                                But y'all can just PM me if anything unusual should happen by your news desk!!

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