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  • #16
    Originally posted by Christina View Post
    Jesus reigns, how can you say that Iran's leader is not a ruthless dictator? (claiming he can't be compared to a ruthless dictoator is the same thing) Do you not remember how he treated any and all who protested against his "election win" last year? Have you so quickly forgotten "Neda"? Do you forget the Christians that have been slaughtered at the hands of his regime all because they converted from islam to Christianity? Are you ignoring the countless times he has openly declared that Israel has no right to exist and that he wants to anhilate them? That doesn't simply mean he doesn't like them, it means he hates them and wants to wipe out their existance. The only difference between Hitler and Iran's leader is that Iran's leader hasn't yet reached the numerical capacity that Hitler did because if Iran's leader actually had the means right now to wipe out Israel and still defend himself against any attack on Israel's behalf, he would be attacking Israel in a heartbeat. The only reason he hasn't gone at Israel full force yet is because he isn't quite at the place that he needs to be in order to "accomplish" it (I put accomplish in quotations because we all know that God would never allow Iran's leader to succeed).

    I have no doubts that if Iran was better equipped (which they are quickly running towards being) they would have gone after Israel already. Right now they're organizing and lining themselves up with Hizbullah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza and Syria so that it can be an all out co-ordinated attack. I don't need to hear someone tell me this and I don't need any of the above to admit it......we SEE it happening as Hizbullah continues to beef up their artillary in the North (thanks to Syria) as Iran continues to test missle launchers, and Syria's leader has already told Israel that the next war will be brought to their cities.....how much more "proof" do you need?

    I think you're a bit confused....nobody is wanting this war to happen, we already know it's going to happen. Nobody is wishing for destruction and death which is what is going to happen in this war, we all pray for mercy on these people and we pray that the Lord give Israel the strength to fight and for Him to protect His people BUT we also know that this means one more step closer to Christ's return. Nobody is taking pleasure in what is going on and the death that is coming, what I take pleasure in is knowing that my Savior is just that much closer to coming for me and I have every right to take pleasure in that.
    At this stage he is nowhere close to Adolph Hitler. Saddam was not either. Find a sound minded world war two vet and make that claim then take a step back and watch their response. I have seen alot of strong claims made here over the years and then nothing materializes out of it. Then the next big thing is said and the cycle repeats itself.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jesus reigns View Post
      At this stage he is nowhere close to Adolph Hitler. Saddam was not either. Find a sound minded world war two vet and make that claim then take a step back and watch their response. I have seen alot of strong claims made here over the years and then nothing materializes out of it. Then the next big thing is said and the cycle repeats itself.
      You'll have to watch and wait. God's word is very clear on the war and destruction that is going to take place in the ME and Iran is going to be part of it. The only reason Iran's leader is not Hitler is because he hasn't actually accomplished what Hitler did back at WWII, however, I think the comparison that has been made is because of Iran's leaders DESIRE to do as Hitler did. One did it, the other desires to do it (and with enough build up and support, he WOULD attempt to do it too)

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      • #18
        Ahmadinejad is a "Hitler". He better get right with God or else hes going to pay a hefty price for what he has done and is doing.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Shadow Girl View Post
          Ahmadinejad is a "Hitler". He better get right with God or else hes going to pay a hefty price for what he has done and is doing.


          His desire to commit genocide upon the entire Jewish race makes him a Hitler in my books.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sheprdboi View Post
            John Hagee calls Ahmadinejad the ‘Hitler of the Middle East’
            By ABE SELIG
            09/03/2010 03:33
            http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/N...aspx?id=170528

            Pastor reaffirms unwavering support for the Jewish state and Jewish people during his group’s annual Night to Honor Israel in J'lem.
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            Speaking to a roaring crowd of more than 1,000 members of Christians United for Israel at the Jerusalem Convention Center on Monday night, Pastor John Hagee reaffirmed his organization’s unwavering support for the Jewish state and Jewish people around the world, during the group’s annual Night to Honor Israel.

            However, the San Antonio, Texas-based Hagee also warned the crowd about the threat of a nuclear Iran and labeled that country’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the “Hitler of the Middle East.”

            Hagee also slammed the UN-sponsored Goldstone Report on Israel’s Gaza offensive last winter, calling the document a “fallacious report,” and putting the onus for war crimes on Hamas members, whom Hagee said, “hid behind the skirts of women to increase civilian casualties.”

            But Hagee also spoke of the “debt of gratitude” Christianity owes to Judaism, telling the crowd that “without Judaism there would be no Christianity.”

            To demonstrate that gratitude, Hagee presented Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who was in attendance, with a 73-meter-long scroll containing upwards of 200,000 names of Christian supporters of Israel who had pledged their support with a signature.

            “What that says,” Hagee said of the scroll, “is that we believe the Jewish people have the right to live in their modern homeland, and that Israel has the same right as any other nation to defend herself from attacks.”

            As Netanyahu took the stage to a standing ovation, he returned the pastor’s warm words, telling him and the crowd, “I salute you, the people of Israel salute you, the Jewish people salute you.

            “Time after time, through thick and thin, you have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with our state,” Netanyahu said. “Today that friendship is more important than ever, because Israel faces unprecedented challenges to its security.”

            And there was no greater challenge, Netanyahu said, than Iran gaining nuclear weapons.

            “There is no greater threat to mankind than a radical Islamic regime gaining nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu said. “If Iran develops nuclear weapons, the world would never be the same.

            “Remember that for the tyrants in Iran,” Netanyahu continued, “Israel is only the little Satan. Their real target is America.

            “As we speak, the United States is leading an international effort to impose sanctions on Iran,” Netanyahu said. “We believe those sanctions must have teeth – and to have teeth, they must bite deep into Iran’s energy sector.


            “Simply put,” Netanyahu continued, “they should prevent Iran from importing gasoline and exporting oil. I believe that such measures might convince the regime to choose between continuing its weapons program and ensuring the regime’s future.

            “But there must be tough, biting sanctions,” he added, to raucous applause.
            I love those Men!!! (Hagee and Netanyahu!!)
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            CAN WE GO NOW?!!!


            The Senior Member of the Peanut Gallery is ready to go HOME NOW!!!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jesus reigns View Post
              Hagee said it was going to happen in 06. I don't think you realize how much this war is going to bring harm to the world. It is easy to sit behind a computer and talk about it but when it happens and it impacts your life then things will be different. I also strongly believe that Christians will endure over half the suffering that will take place before the Lord returns. There are too many thinking they are getting a easy path out. I have a link to photos and info of Iran's military. If you want the link so you can take a look at their forces send me a pm and I will provide you with it. I have seen war up close and I do not think alot of people here can comprehend how horrible it is.
              Are you pre-trib?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jesus reigns View Post
                Hagee said it was going to happen in 06. I don't think you realize how much this war is going to bring harm to the world. It is easy to sit behind a computer and talk about it but when it happens and it impacts your life then things will be different. I also strongly believe that Christians will endure over half the suffering that will take place before the Lord returns. There are too many thinking they are getting a easy path out.
                Explain please?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jesus reigns View Post
                  Maybe so but that does not justify a comparison to a ruthless dictator. There is simply no similarities between Hitler and however you spell his name. He talks alot and no action. Hitler at least took action. Iran is not weak. Trust me they will not be a easy nut to crack for anybody who fights them and they will fight back. When it happens be prepared to pay $15.00 a gallon for gas. Everybody will suffer if/when this war happens and some of the people here who unwisely hope for it to begin will be shocked when they have to endure suffering too.
                  Hmmm...Are you are aware of the history of Nazism? Are you aware of the horrific things that happen in Iran? Like public hangings? hanging from cranes and just left there for all to see? First Brother or Sister? I have to respectfully disagree . The very name of Iran, denotes Nazism.
                  1935 Reza Shah officially renamed Persia – Iran meaning “The Land of Aryans”. The Shah was said to admire the power of Germany. Nazism infiltrated Islam decades ago. One who brought it to Islam was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He hung out with Hitler, and learned a lot. In addition, he was so close with Hitler, he was honored to inspect Hitler’s troops. He then had Bosnian Muslims join Hitler’s army, and other Muslims too. Just a side note, this guys grand nephew was Yasar Arafat. Get the connection? Another side note is that the Palestinians have handed out Arabic language versions of Mein Kampf. Both Hezbollah and Hamas salute the same way as Nazi's, and torture the same way too. You had mentioned Sadam, he was kind of a Heinz 57 guy. He admired Stalin’s tactics, and Hitler’s too. Just to bring this around full circle, it was an American, yes an American named Henry Ford who’s anti-Semitic writings inspired Hitler to write Mein Kamph. Yes, Henry Ford :
                  “The International Jew, The Worlds Foremost Problem” was a series of writing Henry Ford published in his newspaper. In 1920 Henry Ford distributed a series of 81 articles in his newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, which focused on the "corruption" of Jews in American life. When "fighting filth," one of the articles professed, the "fight carries you straight to the Jewish camp.” The filth referred to was the American cinema. The articles were reprinted in Germany and became widely read. In the same year Ford began financing the little known Adolf Hitler's anti-Jew, nationalist movement in Munich. It was Ford's funds (reported to be as high as $70,000) that helped finance Hitler's failed Bavarian rebellion in Munich. During Hitler's trial it was discovered that Ford's associates came in contact with Hitler's mentor Dietrich Eckart while trying to sell Germany tractors. Eckart asked for financial aid and got it almost immediately from Ford. Four days following Hitler's release from Landsberg prison, he stayed at the home of a wealthy friend where he received a new copy of Mein Leben und Werk (My Life and Work) by Henry Ford, a book he would revere and read carefully.
                  In 1928 Ford merged his assets with I.G. Farben, the German chemical cartel, which strengthened the Nazi cause further. In the 1930s, Ford built the Soviet Union's first modern automobile plan at Gorki. The same plant built trucks that were sent to Vietnam in support of the Viet Cong during the 1960s.
                  A Ford associate and fellow racist probably wrote the articles based on the infamous Protocols of Zion, fictional writing that was used by anti-Semites to slander Judaism. Ford eventually published the articles in a book entitled The International Jew. Author Daniel Levitas (The Terrorist Next Door) described The International Jew as an American version of The Protocols of Zion. Its central theme was the assertion that Jews undermined the Christian social structure of America and Jews created Bolshevism. Ford's book sold more than a half a million copies and was translated into 16 languages.

                  Hitler hung Ford's picture on his wall and wrote in Mein Kampf that Ford was a great man who had confronted Jewish power; he quoted Ford's book extensively. Some of Ford's early quotes seem to be something straight out of Hitler's mouth: "The international financiers are behind all war. They are what is called the International Jew - German Jews, French Jews, English Jews, American Jews . . . the Jew is a threat." Hitler told a Detroit News reporter that he regarded "Henry Ford as my inspiration." Ford supported Nazis until his position made him treasonous.
                  Think of that next time ya jump into a Ford. Yes, Nazism is alive and well in the ME, including Iran who carries the very name of their nation in admiration of Nazi Germany.
                  It’s the same recycled evil that has existed decades ago in Germany, and for thousands of years…

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by 4EverHis View Post
                    Hmmm...Are you are aware of the history of Nazism? Are you aware of the horrific things that happen in Iran? Like public hangings? hanging from cranes and just left there for all to see? First Brother or Sister? I have to respectfully disagree . The very name of Iran, denotes Nazism.
                    1935 Reza Shah officially renamed Persia – Iran meaning “The Land of Aryans”. The Shah was said to admire the power of Germany. Nazism infiltrated Islam decades ago. One who brought it to Islam was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He hung out with Hitler, and learned a lot. In addition, he was so close with Hitler, he was honored to inspect Hitler’s troops. He then had Bosnian Muslims join Hitler’s army, and other Muslims too. Just a side note, this guys grand nephew was Yasar Arafat. Get the connection? Another side note is that the Palestinians have handed out Arabic language versions of Mein Kampf. Both Hezbollah and Hamas salute the same way as Nazi's, and torture the same way too. You had mentioned Sadam, he was kind of a Heinz 57 guy. He admired Stalin’s tactics, and Hitler’s too. Just to bring this around full circle, it was an American, yes an American named Henry Ford who’s anti-Semitic writings inspired Hitler to write Mein Kamph. Yes, Henry Ford :


                    Think of that next time ya jump into a Ford. Yes, Nazism is alive and well in the ME, including Iran who carries the very name of their nation in admiration of Nazi Germany.
                    It’s the same recycled evil that has existed decades ago in Germany, and for thousands of years…

                    National socialism is not what you are making it out to be. Heck George Bush Sr was in bed with these guys during world war two. Yes, Persia is where the white race originated from. What's the big deal? The things you say are typical political rants that are meant to cause fear to justify military actions that are not otherwise justified. Also, some of our business colleges are using Mein Kemph to educate our students because they feel Hilter was a great organizer which is essential in properly running a successful business. There is good and evil in everything. Too many people here can't accept there are gray areas for about everything. When you take the stance that everything is either good or evil then you are treading dangerous waters which is much more dangerous than what the Iranians are.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ReadytoGoNow View Post
                      Are you pre-trib?
                      I am pre wrath.

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                      • #26
                        Just a second Jesus reigns, your last sentence said "which is much more dangerous than Iranians are", point is this thread is not about Iranians, this thread is about the president of Iran. Iranians themselves is not the issue (unless they side with their leader)....it's the leadership of Iran calling for Israel's non-existance that is the issue and if they HAD the means to do it, they would have already attempted it. Try to focus....this is about Iran's leader, not the average Iranian national....re-read the title of the thread.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jesus reigns View Post
                          I am pre wrath.
                          That's explains why you believe we'll be here for "half the suffering that will take place before the Lord returns".

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Christina View Post
                            Just a second Jesus reigns, your last sentence said "which is much more dangerous than Iranians are", point is this thread is not about Iranians, this thread is about the president of Iran. Iranians themselves is not the issue (unless they side with their leader)....it's the leadership of Iran calling for Israel's non-existance that is the issue and if they HAD the means to do it, they would have already attempted it. Try to focus....this is about Iran's leader, not the average Iranian national....re-read the title of the thread.
                            The Iranian people have made it clear if Iran is attacked they will fight for their country regardless who their president is. I know several personally. They all say the same thing.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jesus reigns View Post
                              The Iranian people have made it clear if Iran is attacked they will fight for their country regardless who their president is. I know several personally. They all say the same thing.
                              I think that would stand to be seen because according to the millions of protesters shortly after the election and recently, I'd say things could turn out differently than you think. I could say I know quite a few Iranians at the Community Centre here but that would sound "cliche" but rest assured, many just want freedom and are tired of this dictatorship of a regime.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Christina View Post
                                I think that would stand to be seen because according to the millions of protesters shortly after the election and recently, I'd say things could turn out differently than you think. I could say I know quite a few Iranians at the Community Centre here but that would sound "cliche" but rest assured, many just want freedom and are tired of this dictatorship of a regime.
                                Sort of like the Russians did while under the rule of Stalin and the Germans with Hitler?

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