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  • Originally posted by Mom2ten View Post
    Thanks!! Romney can still use it. Their true colors are showing aren't they?? Soooo, how long before we have a hurricane or earthquake in that area?
    Of course, with the discernment that comes from the Holy Spirit, we've known this all along, but it's interesting to me how eager they are to come out in the open with their real agendas these days. We must be close to going home.

    Notice, though, that they can't be too open and honest about their ideal platform just yet...something is still holding them back.
    The Gospel of Jesus Christ

    "I am more flawed and sinful than I ever dared believe."

    "I am more loved and accepted than I ever dared hope."

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    • Originally posted by Mom2ten View Post
      Thanks!! Romney can still use it. Their true colors are showing aren't they?? Soooo, how long before we have a hurricane or earthquake in that area?
      NOOOO don't say that I live here in Charlotte. No hurricanes or earthquakes.

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      • Originally posted by tardisdoctor View Post
        Of course, with the discernment that comes from the Holy Spirit, we've known this all along, but it's interesting to me how eager they are to come out in the open with their real agendas these days. We must be close to going home.

        Notice, though, that they can't be too open and honest about their ideal platform just yet...something is still holding them back.
        The Restrainer, perhaps???

        I've said it before somewhere in another thread (or two), but there are times when I swear I can almost SEE the forces of evil straining at the bit to be fully set free, and this, to me, is just one more example of that. They can't yet implement their agenda, but they are so close they can almost taste it. All they can do for now, though, is gnash their teeth and pull harder against the leashes holding them back. We saw it with Occupy Wall Street, and now we are seeing it at the DNC. Is it me, or does it seem to be worse in groups?
        "Oir is leatsa an rioghachd, agus an cumhachd, agus a gloir, gu siorraidh, Amen." ("For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen" -- Scots Gaelic)

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        • How can anyone take the pro-choice women in this party seriously when they're going around wearing "Uterus" buttons?

          Even more, how can anyone take Debbie Wasserman Schultz seriously anymore, given what she's saying about the Jerusalem/God language snafu? (Quoting Anderson Cooper, "Nothing to see here, move along...")

          Someone on t.v. said ever since the Dems took God out of their platform, they don't have a prayer. True!


          Addendum:
          Mitt Romney's interview with Carl Cameron (before the Dems added the Jerusalem/God language back into the plateform) is now online in its entirety:

          http://video.foxnews.com/v/1824786709001/

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          • I see all those pro-choice people dancing to that beautiful music, being uplifted by the voice of the female singer, by the gospel choir...

            And I think of the dichotomy of all the children who don't have the chance to dance and sing for Jesus in this world because they were aborted before they were born.

            It's impossible to understand how a group of people can insist on the validity of their "rights" to the compete exclusion of the rights of others.

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            • Fox News reported that in Sandra Fluke's speech tonight she will call for Federal Funding for sex-change operations.

              It just keeps getting better and better doesn't it?

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              • Originally posted by mbrown1219 View Post
                What precedent did Jesus and the Apostles set for His followers with regard to politics? ing
                Jesus set the example of fearlessly speaking the truth to others. That applies to any area of life, including politics. When leaders from either party endorse things that are offensive to God, we as Christians are to share what the Bible has to say about those issues. We are to do so with both love and boldness. Neither party is perfect, but the Democratic Party seems to delight in taking stands that mock God's word. Abortion and homosexual marriage are just two issues that they are proud to be pushing. By the way, two followers of Christ who didn't mind boldly speaking to the rulers of their day were John the Baptist and the apostle Paul. It didn't make them popular with the 'in' crowd, but they each left us a great example of what it means to be a faithful witness.

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                • Originally posted by biblegirl View Post
                  Jesus set the example of fearlessly speaking the truth to others. That applies to any area of life, including politics. When leaders from either party endorse things that are offensive to God, we as Christians are to share what the Bible has to say about those issues. We are to do so with both love and boldness. Neither party is perfect, but the Democratic Party seems to delight in taking stands that mock God's word. Abortion and homosexual marriage are just two issues that they are proud to be pushing. By the way, two followers of Christ who didn't mind boldly speaking to the rulers of their day were John the Baptist and the apostle Paul. It didn't make them popular with the 'in' crowd, but they each left us a great example of what it means to be a faithful witness.

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                  • Nuns on the bus? Are their bishops going to reprimand them for joining the party of immorality and baby murder?


                    Take one and pass it on!

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                    • Originally posted by Cloud Watcher View Post
                      The AFL-CIO guy said he is a coal miner. Obama wants to eliminate coal as an energy source because it isn't "green". So why in the world is this guy supporting him???
                      The EPA is well on the way to legislate the end of coal as an economical fuel source in the U.S. (139 proposed coal burning plants blocked in recent years). China, with few or no restrictions, has contracted to buy virtually ALL the coal west of the Mississippi that they can get their hands on, burn it and then send back the filthy dirty carbon air pollution we essentially outlawed at our plants here. Seriously.

                      Last I heard 2 months ago, the railroads in the Pacific NW were overwhelmed with coal shipments. The only two ports they're able to use in OR and WA were straining significantly under the new traffic. Bottom line -- Unionized coal mines now all over the Rockies.

                      Educational link
                      http://factsanddetails.com/china.php...=2278&catid=13


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                      • Watch how mathematically challenged Los Angeles mayor villareconquista is. Does this sound like 2/3 of the room supports the motion to put in the platform what the delegates really didn't support before it blew up on them? This was trying to save face and not look like such godless, Israel hating leftists. Anyone from So Cal knows what a conniving snake the mayor is, and in true to form he looked like a deer caught in the headlights.

                        http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/3872849
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                        • re the God and Jerusalem vote:

                          The reason he waffled so much on how to call that vote was that the teleprompter was telling him the vote was yes, but the evidence obviously did not support that.

                          So, if the teleprompter decided the outcome before the vote was taken, what does this say about the possibilities for the election?

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                          • Originally posted by mbrown1219 View Post
                            What precedent did Jesus and the Apostles set for His followers with regard to politics? ing
                            Question: "Does God expect Christians to vote?"

                            Answer:
                            It is our contention that it is the duty and responsibility of every Christian to vote and to vote for leaders who promote Christian principles. God is most certainly in control, but that does not mean we should do nothing to further His will. We are commanded to pray for our leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-4). In terms of politics and leadership, there is evidence in Scripture that God has been displeased with our choices of leadership at times (Hosea 8:4). The evidence of sin’s grip on this world is everywhere. Much of the suffering on earth is because of godless leadership (Proverbs 28:12). Scripture gives Christians instructions to obey legitimate authority unless it contradicts the Lord’s commands (Acts 5:27-29; Romans 13:1-7). As born-again believers, we ought to strive to choose leaders who will be themselves led by our Creator (1 Samuel 12:13-25). Candidates or proposals that violate the Bible’s commands for life, family, marriage, or faith should never be supported (Proverbs 14:34). Christians should vote as led through prayer and study of both God’s Word and the realities of the choices on the ballot.

                            Christians in many countries in this world are oppressed and persecuted. They suffer under governments they are powerless to change and governments that hate their faith and silence their voices. These believers preach the gospel of Jesus Christ at risk of their own lives. In the U.S.A., Christians have been blessed with the right to speak about and choose their leaders without fearing for themselves or their families. In the U.S.A., in recent elections, about 2 of every 5 of self-professed Christians took that right for granted and did not vote. About 1 in 5 self-professed, eligible Christians are not even registered to vote.

                            In our day and age, there are many who want to drive the name and message of Christ completely out of the public arena. Voting is an opportunity to promote, protect, and preserve godly government. Passing up that opportunity means letting those who would denigrate the name of Christ have their way in our lives. The leaders we elect—or do nothing to remove—have great influence on our freedoms. They can choose to protect our right to worship and spread the gospel, or they can restrict those rights. They can lead our nation toward righteousness or toward moral disaster. As Christians, we should stand up and follow our command to fulfill our civic duties (Matthew 22:21). http://www.gotquestions.org/Christians-vote.html

                            Question: "How should a Christian view politics?"

                            Answer:
                            If there is anything that will spark a spontaneous debate, if not an outright argument, it is a discussion involving politics—even among believers. As followers of Christ, what should our attitude and our involvement with politics be? It has been said that “religion and politics don’t mix.” But is that really true? Can we have political views outside the considerations of our Christian faith? The answer is no, we cannot. The Bible gives us two unassailable truths regarding our stance towards politics and government.

                            The first truth is that the will of God permeates and supersedes every aspect of life. It is God’s will that takes precedence over everything and everyone (Matthew 6:33). God’s plans and purposes are fixed and His will is inviolable. What He has purposed, He will bring to pass, and no government can thwart His will (Daniel 4:34-35). In fact, it is God who “sets up kings and deposes them” (Daniel 2:21) because “the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes” (Daniel 4:17). A clear understanding of this truth will help us to see that politics is merely a method God uses to accomplish His will. Even though evil men abuse their political power, meaning it for evil, God means it for good, working “all things together for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28).

                            Second, we must grasp the fact that our government cannot save us! Only God can. We never read in the New Testament of Jesus or any of the apostles expending any time or energy schooling believers on how to reform the pagan world of its idolatrous, immoral, and corrupt practices via the government. The apostles never called for believers to demonstrate civil disobedience to protest the Roman Empire's unjust laws or brutal schemes. Instead, the apostles commanded the first-century Christians, as well as us today, to proclaim the gospel and live lives that would give clear evidence to its transforming power.

                            There is no doubt that our responsibility to government is to obey the laws and be good citizens (Romans 13:1-2). God has established all authority and He does so for our benefit, “to commend those who do right” (1 Peter 2:13-15). Paul tells us in Romans 13:1-8 that it is the government’s responsibility to rule in authority over us—hopefully for our good—to collect taxes, and to keep the peace. Where we have a voice and can elect our leaders, Christians should exercise that right by voting for those whose views most closely parallel our own.

                            Having said that, it should be noted that one of the grandest deceptions of Satan placed within the mind of man is to believe that we can rest our hope for cultural morality and godly living in politicians and governmental officials. This nation’s hope for change, for a better life, is not to be found in the halls of Congress or in the White House or in any country’s ruling class. The church has made a huge mistake in thinking that it is the job of our politicians to defend, to advance, and to guard biblical truths and Christian values.

                            The church’s unique, God-given purpose does not lie in political activism. Nowhere in Scripture do we have the directive to spend our energy, our time, or our money in governmental affairs. Our mission lies not in changing the nation through political reform, but in changing hearts through the Word of God. When believers think the growth and influence of Christ can somehow be allied with government policy, they corrupt the mission of the church. Our Christian mandate is to spread the gospel of Christ and to preach against the sins of our time. Only as the hearts of individuals in a culture are changed by Christ will the culture begin to reflect that change.

                            Believers throughout the ages have lived, and even flourished, under antagonistic, repressive, pagan governments. This was especially true of the first-century believers who, under merciless political regimes, sustained their faith under immense cultural stress. They understood that it was they, not their governments, who were the light of the world, the salt of the earth. They adhered to Paul’s teaching to obey their governing authorities, even to honor, respect, and pray for them (Romans 13:1-8). More importantly, they understood that as believers, their hope resided in the protection that only God supplies. The same holds true for us today. When we follow the teachings of the Scriptures, we become the light of the world as God has intended for us to be in the first place (Matthew 5:16).

                            The bottom line is this: political entities are not the savior of the world. The salvation for all mankind has been manifested through Jesus Christ. God knew that our world needed saving long before any national government was ever founded. He demonstrated to the world that redemption could not be accomplished through the power of man, his economic strength, his military might, or his politics. Peace of mind, contentment, hope and joy—and the salvation of mankind—is accomplished only through His work of faith, love, and grace. http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-politics.html
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                            • I see there is an advanced copy of his speech now posted.

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                              • In other news.

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