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  • Originally posted by ThePenguin View Post
    A friend of mine was watching the state of the Union address last night when I went to his room to work on some math homework. I asked him who he'd vote for next year and he said "probably Obama" because of what Obama's done so far. It was heartbreaking to hear that.

    Unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!! and have co workers who think the same way. Blind as can be.





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    • Originally posted by IbelieveinJesus View Post
      Without going into what he beleives in his heart (he has said he is a Christian, for the purposes of discourse, I will take him at his word), before the President ran for National Office, he first was a local Politician in IL, and particularly Chicago. A number of prominent Chicago figures, and politicians, also attend Rev Wrights Church, so I personally think one of the reasons he chose that particular Church is "networking." Attending that Church simply helped his local political career.

      Of course, what plays well locally in Chicago, doesn't always translate well to the National stage.

      -Ted
      This is the most sensible answer I've seen, thanks.

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      • Originally posted by Heli View Post
        This is the most sensible answer I've seen, thanks.
        So he fooled you too?
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        • Originally posted by Heli View Post
          Several people in this thread think he is an atheist or Muslim so I would like to hear their response.
          He's definitely a moslem. No question, even dresses like one, recites the islamic prayer by memory, etc. The sad part is that most of the country has bought this usurper from Kenya.
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          • Originally posted by Heli View Post
            Being an apathetic "Christian" going through the motions is not the same as being a closeted atheist/Muslim. So...
            Obama is a closet Pali socialist, watch his actions, not his slippery forked tongue. Did you hear his State of Union speech? Had people nodding to false claims of grandeur







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            • Originally posted by Buzzardhut View Post
              Obama is a closet Pali socialist, watch his actions, not his slippery forked tongue. Did you hear his State of Union speech? Had people nodding to false claims of grandeur
              I can barely stomach him long enough to grab the remote to mute or click off. Thanks to you and everyone who watched and made comments.

              In answer to the OP, my opinion... Nothing with him has changed.

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              • Originally posted by Steve53 View Post
                So he fooled you too?
                ?

                Not sure what you mean...

                -Ted

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                • Originally posted by Gideon300 View Post
                  What was your response? Mine would have been: so you enjoy seeing the destruction of our nation?
                  I just kind of sat there. I keep forgetting that people actually believe that Obama is doing a good job and I didn't want to get into an argument. I've gotten to the point where I don't know what to say to people anymore; it all feels sort of surreal. Usually I would've said something but I'm getting to the point where I don't even care to try to talk to people about it because it seems as if nothing will make these people see the truth.

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                  • Originally posted by ThePenguin View Post
                    I just kind of sat there. I keep forgetting that people actually believe that Obama is doing a good job and I didn't want to get into an argument. I've gotten to the point where I don't know what to say to people anymore; it all feels sort of surreal. Usually I would've said something but I'm getting to the point where I don't even care to try to talk to people about it because it seems as if nothing will make these people see the truth.
                    A lot of people feel the same as you do. I don't mean to put down your friend, but after a while you realize that you just can't carry out an actual debate with people that fall for insane nonsense. They don't care about facts, they only care about emotion.

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                    • ^^Folks have a vested interest in their guy doing well, and it is easier to rationalize your guys poor performance, than it is to admit he, and by association you, are wrong.

                      Sometimes in discussions, folks just aren't open to pov's that challenge theirs. In such situations, it is usually just better to make your point and move on. Rarely is arguing or repeating yourself in such instances a fruitful exercise...

                      I'd also add, that even more rare, is to have someone in the heat of the moment, admit you have a point, but who knows, perhaps as the conversation percolates in their mind afterwards, it will bear fruit...

                      -Ted

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                      • Originally posted by IbelieveinJesus View Post
                        ?

                        Not sure what you mean...

                        -Ted
                        The question was directed to Heli. The meaning should be clear from a reading of the preceding posts.
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                        Psalm 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.


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                        • Ah, ok, I'll go back and read.. I suppose that is the issue with jumping in several pages into a thread

                          -Ted

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                          • Originally posted by Heli View Post
                            Several people in this thread think he is an atheist or Muslim so I would like to hear their response.
                            Hi Heli...before you associate Obama's ties with Jeremiah Wright and his "church" as evidence of a Christian background...please consider that Wright's role as a "pastor" in Chicago is only secondary to all of the millions and millions of dollars that he is involved with among all of the radical ties he has...

                            ......a simple reminder of some of O and Wright's associates are, lest we forget ( and this doesn't even include the Weatherman Underground terrorists or Tony Rivkin who gave O 8 million to purchase his Chicago mansion and later ended up in jail for all of his mob activity).........please re-read everyone so that you can remember how deeply corrupt this man is.....



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                            • Alison wanted to apologize to you all saying she is not a troll, just trying to understand American politics.
                              I am a Christian and in no way a troll; in fact I'm not even very political. I genuinely was asking about obama as I have concerns and not being from US, our news is selective. Also I vote conservative but I think our right is a lot to the left of your right in USA. Idid not mean to upset anyone, my husband has explained that calling a USA Christian fundamentalist (Jason and I are also fundamentalist in our faith) extreme is particularly insulting because that's what all your critics say, I just meant that I wanted to know why Obama was considered evil as opposed to saying he was evil just because he is left-wing, because that isn't considered evil here. Although I have worked closely with extreme political correctness and I am convinced that this is of satan and is 'a form of godliness' because it is so self-righteous.

                              Obviously I hate policy like abortion and that kind of stuff. I just genuinely didn't know what people were meaning. I myself believe Obama is probably someone to be very wary of and I've thought that from the beginning regardless of how nice he seems but he came from nowhere and his stance on Christianity is vague and, in my opinion, Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life. I just wanted to find out the truth about Obama without political spin and that was all I meant; I didn't know this was offensive and I'm sorry if it was. I have prayed about this as I hope nobody else feels like this and I think you should put a warning that UK people should not talk politics - incidentally I didn't post that thread on politics bit, it was moved there.
                              Anyway Buzzard, all I am asking is my name be cleared and explained that I had genuine questions.I hope you will accept my explanations. In love, Alison
                              Originally posted by Heli View Post
                              Several people in this thread think he is an atheist or Muslim so I would like to hear their response.
                              Heli, are you from the UK? The actual true intentions of Obama seem to be hidden from the UK people.



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                              • Originally posted by jackson64 View Post
                                Hi Heli...before you associate Obama's ties with Jeremiah Wright and his "church" as evidence of a Christian background...
                                That's not what I said at all.

                                Originally posted by Buzzardhut View Post
                                Heli, are you from the UK?
                                No, I'm just dumb.

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