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  • Bundy Family - Nevada Standoff

    I'm checking resources before posting any of the many articles, but is anyone else following the standoff in Nevada between rancher and government??? Things are certainly heating up...

  • #2
    One man vs. the guvmint

    Is this the rancher in question, lamtapestry?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...legal-grazing/

    It sounds like a long running dispute and there is not real in depth info in this article. He maybe should contact the law group that stands up for the underdog and I don't mean the ACLU...
    There is also an environmental group involved which never bodes well for the l'il guy...
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    • #3
      Yes, thank you, this is the story. I also saw it on The Drudge Report. They are pushing it as big bully government threatening to take away a family's land.

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      • #4
        While it sure seems this rancher isn't exactly innocent, these Feds are out of control. They'll have job security for sure during the tribulation.
        John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

        John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

        Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Florian9 View Post
          While it sure seems this rancher isn't exactly innocent, these Feds are out of control. They'll have job security for sure during the tribulation.
          The lid is about to explode off the bottle

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          • #6
            I read where militia people from different states around the country are gearing up to come to stand with rancher. I can't understand why the Governor of Nevada doesn't have the final say so. It seems the Governor does side with the rancher to some extent.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Frank View Post
              I read where militia people from different states around the country are gearing up to come to stand with rancher. I can't understand why the Governor of Nevada doesn't have the final say so. It seems the Governor does side with the rancher to some extent.
              Yeah I read that also. The land in dispute is Federal land--not state owned. If you look it up, you'll see that the Feds own almost everything in Nevada. It's ridiculous!
              John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

              John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

              Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Frank View Post
                I read where militia people from different states around the country are gearing up to come to stand with rancher. I can't understand why the Governor of Nevada doesn't have the final say so. It seems the Governor does side with the rancher to some extent.
                This may end up looking like some kind of rebellion, especially if this keeps escalating.

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                • #9
                  I've also seen several articles saying that "militias" are mobilizing. I didn't realize we had militias in the US It's beginning to sound like an extremely tense situation that has the potential to erupt into violence. So many in this country are angry and fed up with Obama and his regime.

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                  • #10
                    Leave it to government to take simple things and make them complex.

                    It should be in court, negotiate the dispute as much as possible, apply law and resolve.


                    Too many want to resolve the issue without even examining the problem.

                    for wisdom, patience on the part of all parties, humility, and a compassionate solution.



                    As for militias, there must be a distinction made between an armed group of vigilantes,

                    and a well regulated group accountable to the people they claim to serve.

                    There should at least be an elected sheriff in command.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wally View Post
                      Leave it to government to take simple things and make them complex.

                      It should be in court, negotiate the dispute as much as possible, apply law and resolve.


                      Too many want to resolve the issue without even examining the problem.

                      for wisdom, patience on the part of all parties, humility, and a compassionate solution.



                      As for militias, there must be a distinction made between an armed group of vigilantes,

                      and a well regulated group accountable to the people they claim to serve.

                      There should at least be an elected sheriff in command.
                      Situations like this are very disturbing on so many levels. The "Rancher" has been stone-walling his duty to pay fines/fees associated with the use of land since 1993. I understand where he's coming from and that the land was supposedly owned/settled by his ancestors in the 1840's, but he's had over two decades to settle this. On the other hand, now we have an out-of-control gubmit using their weight to literally abuse and intimidate this family. Lots of folks are understandably upset at the gov for what they are doing with strong armed tactics and with impunity. There was a time when reasonable Americans with differences could get together, talk it through and settle a dispute without anybody being hindered. Not anymore....folks gotta die on every hill now because it's about "principle".

                      Here's a classic quote from one of the "rangers" when asked about what's going on:


                      “‘Well, well, I don’t even want to be here. Do you think my grandfather’s proud of me? You think I like this? You think this is fun for me?’”

                      “Then what are you doing here?” Cox asked him.

                      “He said, ‘It’s my job.’”
                      http://freebeacon.com/issues/blm-ran...nch-emergency/

                      Uh-huh.....
                      How many of "the King's men" and "knights of the realm" have said that throughout the ages as they tried in vain to defend their actions which cost innocent blood.

                      I hope and pray this situation gets extinguished and soon.....
                      Last edited by Florian9; April 11th, 2014, 11:23 AM. Reason: added link
                      John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

                      John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

                      Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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                      • #12
                        Here's a statement made by the daughter of Cliven Bundy! It will help many get what's going on___
                        At least it should!

                        " Words from Shiree Bundy Cox:
                        I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card. You've already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
                        Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?
                        Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks"

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                        • #13
                          Leave it to Bureaucratic (Bolshevik) Land Management to make a mess of things.


                          This sounds as bad as when they closed National Parks during the budget fiasco.

                          Of course now we need to hear the fed side.... like we can believe them?
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                          • #14
                            I am seeing several rumors going around -- that it is about the desert tortoise, that it is about fracking, even that Harry Reid and his son have made a deal with China for this land so China can build a solar farm or some such thing. As I told DH, I am trying to stay clear of the more "weird" sites and get the real scoop on what's going on, but if this is wrongdoing by BLM, they need to stop now. I have seen it reported that BLM officers have roughed up, tased, and arrested members of Mr. Bundy's family as well as protesters (male and female) for merely taking pictures and asking questions. I have seen it reported that BLM has bought out all the other ranchers and Mr. Bundy is "last rancher standing" on the land in question. I have seen that the land is federally-owned and also that it is owned by Nevada. I am still trying to sort out truth from rumor so as not to jump the gun too quickly. I do not know much about the laws in this case, and there is so much "they said-they said" going on that I think it is going to be some time before the real story comes out completely.

                            As Davy Crockett opined, "Be sure you are right, then go ahead." That quote has stuck with me since early childhood for some reason, and I live by it every day. I am not always right by any means, but living by this quote has helped me be "right" more often than not.
                            "Oir is leatsa an rioghachd, agus an cumhachd, agus a gloir, gu siorraidh, Amen." ("For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen" -- Scots Gaelic)

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                            • #15
                              Here is something from a paper here in Nv on the story. If I am reading it right,it says the rancher's family settled the land in question in the 19th century..if that is so,it is his land ..right?

                              http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2014/0.../?sf24886394=1

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