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  • #16
    poor Mary. Poor Peter. Are there even any words in the Bible that are a direct quote from her mouth? She doesn't want any praise to her! And Peter definetly does not want that catholic monstrosity (vatican) to be based on his words, thoughts or deeds!

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    • #17
      Awhile ago I posted a topic called Messages from Heaven. I think it is a great video to watch you can go to www.eternal-productions.org and watch it online. God bless.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by icebear View Post


        :falsep



        Amen icebear.

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        • #19
          If you listen very closely you can almost hear Mary screaming down from Heaven saying ...

          Hey folks, .. THATS NOT ME!!..IM UP HERE IN HEAVEN WITH JESUS....
          DONT PRAY TO ME AND DONT WORSHIP ME!!!
          "Rise up my fair one and come away..The time of singing has come, my dove in the clefts of the rock ....for my beloved is mine and I am HIS..

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          • #20
            Why is there a sudden rush , when things like this occur???..Im, still baffled by it???

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            • #21
              Dont you think that the reason the Lord has not allowed certain artifacts to be found is to prevent idol worship?

              If the Ark of the Covenant or Noah's Ark or something else as big in importance was found, how many would flock to "IT" rather than to God Himself?

              Stigmatas are so deceiving.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tenbear2808 View Post
                Dont you think that the reason the Lord has not allowed certain artifacts to be found is to prevent idol worship?
                If the Ark of the Covenant or Noah's Ark or something else as big in importance was found, how many would flock to "IT" rather than to God Himself?

                Stigmatas are so deceiving.
                I think you've hit the nail on the head!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Chuck Taylorz View Post
                  Why is there a sudden rush , when things like this occur???..Im, still baffled by it???
                  They are empty and are looking for salvation the Catholic Church can not fill the void, so they turn to anything. They are not taught salvation is by the Lord only. So they grasp at every straw thinking "this might be it", they are so deep in the dark they can't see the light and the Catholic Church want let them see the light.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by CHRISTinCheryl View Post
                    these are just the "apparitions of Mary" junk...satanically originated..( lying signs and wonders)..These apparitions will help unite the Apostate Catholic harlot church who pray to and worship mary, and the Muslims together... all will come together in the Trib.....
                    the Roman Catholic church sees mary as co-redeemer with JESUS

                    JESUS is LORD.. and JESUS is the ONLY way to the Father

                    theres NO other name in heaven for which a man can be saved!!


                    How can you say that apparitions of Mary originate from Satan? If you bother to look in to the Marian Apparitions, you will all she is doing is preparing us for the times that we are facing now. The End Times. The main aim is to bring people back to Jesus before it is too late. How can that be from Satan? Just as prophets and angels heralded Jesus' birth, so she is announcing the second coming of her Son.

                    Mary is not "worshipped" in the Catholic Faith, she is honoured as the Mother of God and there is a big difference. What are you going to say to her when you meet her in Heaven? I for one am glad that I can say that i know and love the Father, Son and Holy Spirit but also that i acknowledge Mary and her role in salvation - without her Jesus would not have been born. Come on people - think. What will you say to Jesus when he asks you why you rejected the mother that he loves so much?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Claire-Marie View Post
                      Mary is not "worshipped" in the Catholic Faith, she is honoured as the Mother of God and there is a big difference. What are you going to say to her when you meet her in Heaven? I for one am glad that I can say that i know and love the Father, Son and Holy Spirit but also that i acknowledge Mary and her role in salvation - without her Jesus would not have been born. Come on people - think. What will you say to Jesus when he asks you why you rejected the mother that he loves so much?
                      Please tell me because I didn't know Mary had a role in my salvation. What is her role and please back it up with scripture.

                      Yes, I believe that Mary was honored by God to be able to give birth to our Messiah. Although, Jesus is clear that Mary is no different then any other human.

                      Matthew 12:47-50 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
                      Jesus is also clear that there is only one way to the Father and that is through Him.

                      John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

                      Do you really believe with out Mary Jesus would have never been born?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Claire-Marie


                        How can you say that apparitions of Mary originate from Satan? If you bother to look in to the Marian Apparitions, you will all she is doing is preparing us for the times that we are facing now. The End Times. The main aim is to bring people back to Jesus before it is too late. How can that be from Satan? Just as prophets and angels heralded Jesus' birth, so she is announcing the second coming of her Son. I cannot think of any occurrence in the Bible where a deceased person heralded anything - God sent angels to do that. How can these things be from Satan? Satan can take on any appearance he wishes and trick us. How perfect is it that satan can take on any appearance (say, a woman held in esteem ), act all nice and sweet, giving and kind, and then when he has people roped in, turn on those people. That is what he is doing. Mary is not "worshipped" in the Catholic Faith, she is honoured as the Mother of God and there is a big difference. What are you going to say to her when you meet her in Heaven?
                        "Well, hello. From one mother to another, it must have been wonderful carrying the Saviour of humanity." I don't know what I'll say to her, I've never thought about it, because the One I look forward to seeing the most is JESUS.
                        I for one am glad that I can say that i know and love the Father, Son and Holy Spirit but also that i acknowledge Mary and her role in salvation -
                        Mary has absolutely no role in salvation. She was the vessel that God chose to bring forth His Son.without her Jesus would not have been born.
                        Without her, God would have used another virgin from David's line. Mary was not the important being here.
                        Come on people - think. What will you say to Jesus when he asks you why you rejected the mother that he loves so much?
                        He won't be asking that, so I have absolutely no worries about it. Mary will be another sister-in-Christ that I will have the privilege of meeting.
                        God bless.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Beth O View Post
                          Please tell me because I didn't know Mary had a role in my salvation. What is her role and please back it up with scripture.

                          Yes, I believe that Mary was honored by God to be able to give birth to our Messiah. Although, Jesus is clear that Mary is no different then any other human.



                          Jesus is also clear that there is only one way to the Father and that is through Him.




                          Do you really believe with out Mary Jesus would have never been born?
                          Beth,

                          Mary's only role in salvation is that she said 'yes' to God when he asked her to give birth to the Messiah. There were no questions asked, no "maybe's" no "Can I have time to think about it?" Just a straightforward yes. It is true that Jesus is the only way to salvation, of course he is! But people forget that Mary was instrumental in God's plan to carry this out.

                          To answer your last question, Mary was chosen from the beginning of time to fulfill her role, he knew that she would be as perfect as she was. She does not have any direct role in salvation, but should be acknowledged in the grand scheme of things. Try looking up the Marian Apparitions and their messages and make your own decision. To me, she seems to be a mother desperately crying out to her children to come back to Jesus before it is too late!

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                          • #28
                            Theresa,

                            I'm not going to argue every point with you and get into a slanging match. From what you have written i can tell that you have not read the messages of the apparitions or you would not be reacting like this. Maybe you should look into what she is saying and get back to me about them being from Satan. She is often accompanied by angels and her sole purpose is to talk about the Second Coming of her Son, Jesus. She is a Mother, desperately pleading with us here on earth to come back to her Son before it is too late - why is that so offensive and threatening to you?

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                            • #29
                              PS Who do you think this woman is in Revelation? She seems to have quite an important role in all of this - hardly just another Sister in Christ, Theresa.

                              Revelation 12: 1-17

                              1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

                              2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

                              3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

                              4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

                              5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

                              6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

                              7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

                              8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

                              9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

                              10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

                              11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

                              12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

                              13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

                              14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

                              15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

                              16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

                              17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Claire-Marie View Post
                                Beth,

                                Mary's only role in salvation is that she said 'yes' to God when he asked her to give birth to the Messiah. There were no questions asked, no "maybe's" no "Can I have time to think about it?" Just a straightforward yes. It is true that Jesus is the only way to salvation, of course he is! But people forget that Mary was instrumental in God's plan to carry this out.
                                OK good just what I thought Mary has no role in my salvation.

                                Originally posted by Claire-Marie View Post
                                To answer your last question, Mary was chosen from the beginning of time to fulfill her role, he knew that she would be as perfect as she was. She does not have any direct role in salvation, but should be acknowledged in the grand scheme of things. Try looking up the Marian Apparitions and their messages and make your own decision. To me, she seems to be a mother desperately crying out to her children to come back to Jesus before it is too late!
                                This clarifies your view to me perfectly. "To me" I look to scripture alone to answer these important questions.

                                We have the wonderful gospel of Jesus Christ clearly taught in the Word of God. We don't have to look to Mary to find Christ.

                                There is a woman described in the book of Revelation that is drawing all of the apostate Churches to her in forming the one world religion of those that will worship the beast. Beware!!

                                Revelation 18:3-4 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

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