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    By Coach Dave Daubenmire
    July 9, 2009

    “Christianity started in Palestine as a fellowship; it moved to Greece and became a philosophy; it moved to Italy and became an institution; it moved to Europe and became a culture; it came to America and became an enterprise.” -Sam Pascoe

    “An enterprise. That’s a business.” After a few moments Martha, the youngest student in the class, raised her hand. I could not imagine what her question might be.

    I thought the little vignette was self-explanatory, and that I had performed it brilliantly. Nevertheless, I acknowledged Martha’s raised hand,

    “Yes, Martha.” She asked such a simple question, “A business? But isn’t it supposed to be a body?” I could not envision where this line of questioning was going, and the only response I could think of was, “Yes.” She continued,

    “But when a body becomes a business, isn’t that a prostitute?” as told by David Ryser

    I’ve been fighting for a long time the prompting of my inner man to take on this subject.

    Although I have chewed around the edges like I used to do as a child when I would break off the crust from a hot, home-made apple pie in attempt to appease my hunger without my mother finding out, I never really stuck my thumb into the middle of the pie.

    I have been a sellout. A pimp, if you will. Not on purpose. It is easy to justify our lack of courage when confronted with difficult issues. I try to faithfully deliver the mail as the Lord hands it to me, but I have been negligent by eating the crust out of fear of spoiling the pie.

    You see, I have pulled my punches. I have softened the blow. I have spanked with a newspaper when they deserved a belt.

    I have sold out on the Truth.

    I have not called a spade a spade. I have nibbled at the crust when I should have been hammering the pie.

    I have taken the be-nice approach and have listened to the “touch not God’s anointed” mentality.

    I have prostituted the Truth. For that I am sorry.

    Oh, my intentions were good.

    I had hoped that as I exposed the “unfruitful works of darkness” that the churches would eventually awaken and begin to push back against the enemy.

    After ten years of trying to awaken “The Church” to the problem I have finally mustered the courage to say what I have known all along.

    “The Church” IS the problem. It has become a pimp, selling the works of “the body” for personal satisfaction.

    Most of the pulpits are filled by “hirelings” (more on that in a future commentary), men and women who stand in the pulpit without a calling, without an anointing, and without courage.

    They are man pleasers, living off of “the Body” as they sell it out for their own whims and pleasures.

    Greedy Dogs, Isaiah called them. Blind watchmen…loving to sleep…leading the flock astray.

    Not all of the churches. If you are a pastor and have read this far then I am probably not talking about you. I have met many courageous men who boldly live out the command to “lead them out.”

    You know who you are. You are the one’s who have been criticized, belittled, and called names by the “pimp in the pulpit” at the big church downtown.

    You see, to him, the church is a business…an enterprise…a social club totally dependant on butts and bucks.

    It is a place to make business contacts, network with others in the community, and soothe one’s conscience through weekly attendance and philanthropy.

    It is no different from a whore house where a woman’s body is sold for the pleasure of another. Love-less intercourse is prostitution.

    Most church goers love the service that Jesus provides (membership has its privileges) but don’t really know the Jesus who provides it.

    I’ll be honest. I’ve been afraid to say some of these things for fear of alienating even more pastors.

    I was afraid that my harshness might alienate those “frozen chosen” pastors and eliminate opportunities to “minister” to their congregations.

    That’s where I have pimped-out my call. The pastors are not the answer, they are the problem.

    Instead of cleaning out Congress perhaps we should start by cleaning out the pulpit. Judgment begins first in the house of God.

    America is a reflection of the churches and the churches are a reflection of the pulpits.

    It is time to “throw the bums out”…even if they do hide behind the “touch not my anointed.”

    When a football team is under-performing who gets the boot? Yep, the coach.

    Allow me to be frank as I cut to the chase. Pick up your family and get out of the mausoleum you are attending and find a place that serves the Lord.

    I couldn’t care less how many generations your family has been a member, how many pews your family has donated, and how many of your friends attend.

    Sitting on your butt every Sunday is not serving the Lord, it is the Lord serving you.

    The feel-good Gospel is a fraud.

    Jesus taught self-sacrifice not self-fulfillment. “Greater love has no man than this than he would lay down his life for his friends….” Love demands sacrifice.

    What have you sacrificed for your faith? You are engaging in Spiritual welfare…living off of the efforts of others.

    Start fighting back by no longer giving them your money.

    Don’t allow them to hit you over the head with the “bring all of the tithes into the storehouse” hammer without asking yourself some very important questions. What is a storehouse and what is its purpose?

    What does the Scripture mean by “meat in my house” and who is the meat for?

    Are there families in your “church” who are losing their homes? Is that not who the “meat in the house” was stored up for or were the storehouse funds used for a new parking lot?

    Is the purpose of the tithe (by the way, my wife and I believe in tithing) to pay senior pastors, associate pastors, youth ministers, worship leaders, and secretaries to do “ministry?”

    Can’t you “tithe” different places? Did the New Testament church teach the concept of “professional” Christians or were the elders of the church also tent-makers?

    Does “meat in my house” mean bigger buildings, paved parking lots, and padded pews?

    Is your “church” experiencing a budget crunch right now because they have eaten the meat that should have been placed in the storehouse? I know, “let them eat blacktop.”

    Is storehouse money supposed to be spent on the already converted or on seeking and saving that which is lost?

    What percent of your church’s budget go to “missions”…as if that is a separate job…in comparison to utilities, paper, salaries, and operating expenses?

    Don’t stop giving, just change where you give. Find a ministry that is using the money to reach out to the community and send your tithe there.

    Remember, it is the “Lord’s house” into which your finances are to be offered….not some social club to which your tithe is nothing more than monthly dues. It is time you asked yourself if the Spirit still dwells in your church.

    My wife and I have spent the last few weeks reading the book of Acts in our morning devotionals. You should do the same.

    They spread the Gospel around the world at great personal peril and sacrifice. The self-serving American-Church is a pathetic step-child to Christianity’s founding fathers.

    Most churches love money, chase money, compromise over money. A pastor in New York was just fired from his $600,000 salary!

    The national average for pastors is $84,426! No wonder they won’t speak against sin! Why not include those wealthy homosexuals in the congregation!

    People have asked me to start a church. I tell them that they are nuts. Truth empties churches, it doesn’t fill them.

    My friend Flip Benham says guys like me would be the Dr. Kervorkian of church growth.

    What man of God would want to wipe noses when he could fight evil? No thanks. At least on the streets I can recognize the enemy.

    “And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind? But what went ye out for to see?

    A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.” Yep, the pimps are the ones wearing the nice clothes.

    Funny isn’t it? The pimps in the pulpits accuse street preachers of being undignified.

    What did Jesus say about the ultimate street preacher John the Baptist? “Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist.”

    Take the time to read what Jesus had to say to the religious pimps of His day!

    We’re heading next week to do ministry work on the streets of Las Vegas. (Click here and listen). That’s right, we are Christian street-walkers.

    Help send us. The black-top parking lot can wait. Whatever you give we will use to reach the lost. Donate here. YOU are my congregation…

    You probably won’t find me speaking in any churches anytime soon….
    For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also (Matthew 6:21)

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      dave has a follow up article


      By Coach Dave Daubenmire
      July 16, 2009

      I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. ‘But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep”

      I might as well ride this horse while I am on it. My commentary from last week, Christian Pimps, blew the door of my email server off. I figured it would, but not in the way that it did.

      The overwhelming response was heart-wrenching as I read story after story of the horror some folks have been put through by “local” churches. The refrain usually took one of two paths as writer’s spelled out for me their stories. Some were tales of separation from life-long churches because they had the courage to question the status-quo by addressing the leadership with many of the issues mentioned in Christian Pimps. Others were heart-sick over the un-Biblical practice of debt accumulation as the leadership ignored their cries and continued on with their “church growth” schemes as the integrity of the Word was diminished in the slide toward “relationship” evangelism.

      To put it in medical terms, I hit a nerve. It is disheartening to hear from so many disaffected, disillusioned, wounded, no-longer church goers. Why have so many Christians dropped out of church? Rebellious sheep I suppose…..

      But at the same time I was encouraged. There are millions of believers who are no longer part of the “church scene” who are passionately following hard after Jesus. Christianity operates best when we realize it is a relationship, not a religion. Many others share my hatred of “religion” and the box that it puts adherents in to. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty! And many have found the freedom of worship outside the stained-glassed fortresses.

      Having said all of that, last week I promised to take on another issue, that of “the hirelings” in the pulpits.

      Let me remind you that I am not a theologian; I have never attended seminary, and do not consider myself an expert on any Biblical issue. But I can read, and I can think. As I have taken time to do as the Bereans who “searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so” I have found that many things I previously had been taught just simply did not line-up with Scripture. It was through my own study that I ran across something that up to now no one has been able to refute to me.
      Perhaps you can….I am not afraid of the Truth.

      Early in my walk I heard a pastor use a Scripture that is oft repeated. In fact, I used it on a number of occasions. It was only by happenstance as I was reading the Bible one day that something jumped out at me that flew in the face of everything I had believed. I don’t want to shake your faith, or take away one of the church’s catch phrases, but ever since I saw this truth I stopped misusing the verse. Buckle up…let’s go for a short ride.

      As I said, I am not a Bible teacher, but I can read. Here is the Scripture that I see so often misapplied. John 10:10 “The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:” Now for years I believed that the “the thief” mentioned here was the Devil. It is a pet verse of those who are “under attack” by the enemy. I do believe that the Devil is a thief, but allow me to propose to you that the Devil is not “the thief” that Jesus is warning about in this regularly quoted verse.

      No my friends, the thief is not the Devil, but the “false shepherd”, the same thief that I referred to last week as “pimps.” Please take a moment and read John 10:1:16

      In the very first verse Jesus identifies the thief for us. “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” (Please keep your browser open to John 10. This will allow me to not use space writing the Scriptures.) Jesus tells us that the one who enters by the door is the shepherd (v.2) and that He (Jesus) is the door. (v.9). The one who enters any other way is a “thief and robber” (v.1) as clearly identified by Jesus.

      He tells us that the sheep “hear his (true shepherd’s) voice; he calls them by name, and he LEADS THEM OUT.” (v. 3) (Funny isn’t it, most pastors today lead folks in.) The true shepherd “goes before the sheep” (v. 4) as he “leads them out.”

      But Jesus tells us in verse six that the folks to whom He was speaking “understood not,” and He took more time to further explain. Beginning in verse seven He tells us that He was “the door” and that “all that came before him were thieves and robbers.” (There it is again…He tells us who the thieves and robbers are...and it ain’t the devil.) The thieves are the false shepherds who will not lead the sheep to Jesus, “the door” (v. 9) through whom the sheep could be saved. (v.9). (Get ready…here it comes)

      In verse ten Jesus warns us that the previously identified thief (v.1 and v 7) has come to steal, kill, and destroy. The thief is not the Devil, but the false shepherd. (Still not convinced?)

      Look who shows up in verse twelve…the wolf! Doesn’t it make sense that the wolf is the Devil? We have two different characters here…the thief and the wolf….the Devil can’t be both. In fact, Jesus goes a step further to identify the thief for us by calling him a “hireling” and not the shepherd (v. 12).
      It is the “hireling” (false shepherd) who “seeth the wolf coming” (v. 12) and deserts his post. The hireling flees because he “careth not for the sheep.” (v. 13), but is only in it for his own personal gain.
      The thief (hireling) sees the wolf (Devil) coming and flees. It is the hireling who has come to “kill, steal and destroy.”

      Some things never change. Those “hirelings” were the one’s Jesus saved his greatest criticism for when He ran into them earlier, (only then He called them Pharisees) when He rebuked them because they “shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.” (Remember, He also accused the hirelings of not being able to lead the sheep through the door). The Pharisees were the original hirelings. Read what Jesus said about them and ask yourself if they were any different from what stands in many of our pulpits today.

      John 10 is clear if read with an open mind. Hirelings are Pharisees and the Pharisees were hirelings….professional “ministers.” Jesus warned us about both.

      How can we possibly restore righteousness to this nation when we can’t even get those who stand in the pulpit to honor the Word of God? How can we expect our elected officials to stand publicly against evil when the “men of the cloth” are too cowardly to do so?

      Jesus’ anger was not directed towards the secular government but towards those who changed his house of prayer into a “den of thieves.”(There are those thieves again) He cleaned the house and today we need to do the same.

      Christians have lost all credibility with the world. For the most part the public image of Christian leaders is money grubbing, hypocritical, and Republican, a far cry from the Christ we claim to serve.

      America is in dire need of a revival. It will never happen with the hirelings currently occupying our pulpits. It is at their feet that we must lay the killing, stealing, and destroying of the Christian heritage from this nation. It is time for a reformation.

      Instead of all of this talk about “reclaiming America” perhaps we should refocus on reclaiming our faith. Has there ever been an institution with more pathetic leadership than we see today in American Christianity? Nothing is more debilitating to an army than cowardly leadership.

      There has always been a true elite of God’s leaders. They are the meek who inherit the earth (Mat. 5:5). They weep and pray in secret, and defy earth and hell in public. They tremble when faced with danger, but die in their tracks sooner than turn back. They are like a shepherd defending his sheep or a mother protecting her young. They sacrifice without grumbling, give without calculation, suffer without groaning. Their price is above riches. They are the salt of the earth. For the cause of the kingdom, we need more of them." (Author unknown.) Do you know many shepherds like that?

      Don’t be discouraged. The Lord’s Church is thriving and on the advance, but you will never recognize it if you are focusing on the group of people gathered in the building down the street. Most of those sheep belong to a hireling, a false shepherd, and not to the Lord.

      It is the hireling, the false shepherd that has come to steal, and kill, and destroy.

      Allow The Lord to be your Shepherd. He leads us out, we hear His voice, and He lays down His life for us.

      As my friend Flip Benham says, “Everyone wants to follow Jesus until they find out where He is going. He is going to a cross and he asks you to take up yours and follow Him.”

      It is time we decided to follow Jesus and not some hired hand.


      Hired Shepherds
      Jul 16 by Ingrid Schlueter

      Dave Daubenmire has a follow-up piece to his “Christian Pimps” article.

      Like Dave, for years, I have heard from listeners and Slice readers who have been injured by the hirelings in the pulpit today.

      Just yesterday, I got an email from someone asking if I knew where a Bible-preaching church was in his area of our city. He gave firm geographical boundaries for where he’d like to find such a church. What I had to say was, “You’d better remove your wish list for location.

      You’ll be blessed to find one within the entire metro area, let alone in your own neighborhood.” Such churches are growing more and more difficult to find.

      Hireling pastors are not limited to those who teach false doctrine and openly abuse the sheep. Hirelings come with all different kinds of plans and agendas.

      Some of these churches are led by men, however conservative in their theology, whose aims are related to vast growth at the expense of individual care of sheep.

      One church in our area is hoping to build a gymnasium on their church property that will cost in the millions.

      (This, when people are losing jobs and struggling to make ends meet.) And these hirelings wonder why increasing numbers of believers are rethinking “tithe” and how it’s being used. Another church just took out millions in a new loan to revamp their already beautiful church and to add a state-of-the-art recording studio.

      Why? So the “musicians” of the church worship band can make their own recordings. Onward Christian soldiers.

      One of the saddest realities of hirelings shepherds is their near total lack of concern for their sheep.

      I could personally write a book about what this experience is like as a sheep. Hirelings are either trying to build their little kingdoms or are trying to salvage dying churches where the death rattle is audible.

      They never seem to comprehend that their churches are dying because the individual sheep are hurting, injured, wandering and alone.

      It’s all about making payroll and getting utilities paid before they shut the lights off. These are churches where you might be MIA as a member for months, but the letter you’ll get in your mailbox is a fund drive appeal.

      “Rescue us before the electricity is cut off. Brother can you spare us a gift on your VISA or Mastercard?”

      Daubenmire hits it on the head in his piece.

      True remnant churches may or may not be small, but the hallmark of such churches is the presence of love and concern for the well-being of the sheep.

      If you have such a church and a godly pastor, thank the Lord on your knees each day for it. They are rare.

      For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also (Matthew 6:21)