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  • I just posted this video that I found earlier in this thread on my Facebook. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Miqu5...layer_embedded

    And these verses...

    ‎2 Peter 2:1-2 "1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought themóbringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute."

    Is it terrible of me to hope that people watch it, but don't try to start a debate with me about it? I'm not a debater and it scares the bejabbers out of me to think about trying to discuss it!

    I may be later...

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    • I just got my Time in the mail. Even the picture of Rob Bell is hard to swallow. He just looks so full of himself!

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      • Bill Keller devotional on the reality of hell (aka a post Rob Bell followers will not like to read

        http://liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=4425

        The reality of hell. A few years ago on a Sunday afternoon I got home from the office, took a nap, and got up around 3pm.


        It was one of those rare moments of "down time," when I was able to just kick back and relax for a few hours. I turned on the television to see what was on, and almost immediately saw that on one of the PBS stations, they were airing the Osmond Family's 50th Anniversary performance from Las Vegas.




        At age 53, I grew up with the Osmond family and their music. They were always on different variety and music TV programs in the 60s and 70s.



        Of course, you had the Donny and Marie Show that aired in the 70s. Their music was always on the radio during those years.


        They were a part of the culture I grew up in. So it was a pleasant few hours watching all of the brothers along with Marie performing, singing some of their many hit songs.




        As I watched the 2-hour special, I remembered how in those turbulent years of the late 60s and early to mid 70s, the Osmonds were different from most of the musical greats of that era.



        It was a time of great rebellion in the nation, the sexual revolution, open drug use, a time of defiance to all authority, including Gods. So it was refreshing to see this wholesome family who stayed clear of so many of the problems that most in the music industry fell into during that time.




        I do distinctly remember watching the Osmond's on many of the Christmas specials like Andy Williams and Bob Hope. They would sing some of the great Christmas carols and often mention "their church." At 10, 11, 12, even 15,

        I knew that "their church" was the Mormon church, and deep down, even though I didn't know what it was, I knew there was something different about "their church," and "their faith," as they called it.




        It wouldn't be until many years later during my time in seminary that I came to know the truth about the false theology of the Osmond's "church."


        I still loved their music, but I was hurt knowing that this family was following a lie to hell.


        As I sat back and enjoyed the PBS special that Sunday afternoon, I couldn't stop thinking that these wonderfully gifted performers, this family that I had grown up with, would die and end up forever in hell for following the lies of a murdering pedophile named Joseph Smith.




        The fond memories of my childhood, the joy of hearing some of their great songs again after many years, was all tempered with the reality that Donny, Marie, Jimmy, and the rest of the brothers were all going to end up in hell with their departed parents if they continued to follow the false teachings of "their church."




        It was during this time of mixed feelings, that satan, THE LIAR, began to speak to me.


        He said, " Bill, surely the wonderful God you love and serve would never send such a precious family to hell who has done so much good for so many people around the world.


        God's mercy and grace are endless, and He will understand that these good people simply were born into a family that believed the lies of Mormonism. Look at them.


        Have you ever seen a more wonderful family. No God could send these wonderful people to a place as horrible as hell !"



        Let me ask you a question.


        Have you ever looked at your unsaved mom or dad, husband or wife, son or daughter, someone in your family that you love and care about, a dear friend, a neighbor, someone you work with or go to school with, who you know is not saved and hear satan tell you that same lie?


        It is a lie we want to believe. Nobody wants to think about the people they love and care about spending eternity in hell. It is much easier to buy into the lies of satan that God would never send the people you love and care about to a place as horrible as hell to be punished for all eternity.




        This is the lie of universalism that says all roads lead to God, that because of God's love and mercy, everyone will somehow make it to Heaven.



        This is the same lie that sadly is preached from the pulpits of many of our churches.


        You have the man who pastors the largest church in the world,

        Joel Osteen, going on national TV and helping to spread this lie.




        If that is true, then Jesus is a liar and the Bible is not true! If that is true then Jesus' death on the cross meant nothing and you don't have to put your faith in Jesus to be saved, but simply believe whatever you want to believe and when you die you will make it to Heaven!




        Someone is lying! It is either satan or Jesus! John 8:44 says that satan is a liar, he is the father of lies, that when he speaks, he speaks his native language, lying!


        Who are you gong to believe, satan the liar, or Jesus, the One who died for your sins???



        My friend, hell is a very real place!!! The fact is, God doesn't send anyone to hell. The only way a person ends up in hell is because they choose to go there. The Truth is, there is only ONE PLAN of salvation, ONE WAY to be saved, and that is by faith in Jesus Christ.


        There are not many roads that lead to God, only one. You can't believe whatever you want and get to Heaven. The ONLY WAY to Heaven is by putting your faith in Jesus.



        You see, we are all sinners, and it is our sin that separates us from a Holy God. A person may look to us like they are a "good person," but the Bible says that there are NONE THAT ARE GOOD, NO NOT ONE!

        That means no matter how good the Osmonds look, no matter how good Mitt Romney and his family look, no matter how good those family members and friends in your life look on the outside, the fact is they are all sinners.



        The Bible proclaims that we have ALL sinned and fallen short of God's glory. You see, God doesn't look at the outside of a person, He sees their heart! God sees a person's sins.




        Is He a God of grace and mercy? Yes! He is also a God of JUDGMENT! God loved us enough to make a way for our sins to be forgiven, so that we didn't have to suffer the eternal punishment we deserve. By putting your faith in Jesus, the One who died for your sins, you can have the assurance of being in Heaven when this brief journey thru life is over.

        I love you and care about you so much.

        The fact is, we are each accountable for our eternal souls. You, me, Donny Osmond, and each one in his family. Sadly, the Osmond's have CHOSEN to believe and follow the lies of the Mormon cult.



        I have no doubt they have been told many times over the years that their faith is in the ramblings of a conman named Joseph Smith, and that they either believe the Jesus of the Bible or what Smith taught his followers.



        Sadly, they have rejected the Truth for the lies of Smith and are following those lies to the fires of hell. Pray for them, that they might turn from the lies of the Mormon cult and embrace the real Truth found in God's Word alone.

        I pray that one day I might get a few minutes with Donny and simply challenge him to think about who he believes, the words of Jesus, or the ramblings of a conman that lived just a few hundred years ago.



        I pray today that this message will challenge you to not buy into the lie of satan that your unsaved family members and friends will somehow make it to Heaven without Jesus. if they die without Jesus, they will be lost for all eternity.



        Ultimately it is their choice, just like we each have to make that choice in our life. However, know today that hell is a very real place, and sadly, it is the eternal home for those who die rejecting the Lord. I will pray with you today for those family members and friends in your life who need to know Jesus, that they will open their hearts to His love and truth, and accept Jesus as their personal Savior by faith.





        One of the classic Osmond songs was "One Bad Apple." The lyrics say. "One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch, girl."

        The fact is, one bad apple like Joseph Smith, or L. Ron Hubbard, or Oprah, or Mormon cult member Glenn Beck, can lead many souls to the everlasting fires of hell.


        Hell is a very real place, and sadly, it is where those who make the choice to reject Jesus will end up.


        In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller




        http://liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=4425

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        billiefan2000 side note:


        : the Osmond family and also Mitt Romney and his family and also Glenn Beck and his family all come to know the REAL Jesus and leave the Mormon cult.



        TESTIMONIES of EX-MORMONS who found the REAL Jesus and not the one invented by Mormon Cult Leader Joseph Smith








        For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also (Matthew 6:21)

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        • Information on Rob Bell

          Can anyone give me information on what Rob Bell teaches? I have heard he is part of the emerging church. That concerns me because my daughter and son in law really like what he teaches. I have looked at some videos he has made and some on the news and he seems very off. thanks
          sigpic Be still and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth! Psalm46:10

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          • If you look in the apostasy section you will find a wealth of information.
            He is BAD news!

            Ok now I see you posted your question in Apostasy!

            On page 3-look for this thread:
            Emergent Rob Bell *Merged*

            Sorry I'm not sure how to post the link

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            • Rob Bell and teaches should never be used together in a sentence. More like "Rob Bell" and "apostasy", or "Rob Bell" and "straight to hell"......of course if you ask him "hell" doesn't exist. With or without the quotation marks. lol

              You would do well to edgimacate yurself on him, and get your daughter and SIL to run as fast as possible in the other direction.

              Scott

              p.s. edgimacate = educate. just trying to be silly.
              The Road To New Jerusalem

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              • thank you I will try to find it!
                sigpic Be still and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth! Psalm46:10

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                • thank you scott, i am trying to warn my daughter but she refuses to listen, she say her and her husband love his books. i am very worried!
                  sigpic Be still and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth! Psalm46:10

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                  • Lots of info here!

                    You need to warn them that he follows the scriptures very loosely, and then only when they suit his heretical doctrines. He despises "sound doctrine" because he doesn't believe scriptures can be taken literally and absolutely, again unless they suit his own purposes. He's a master manipulator and twister of scripture, and has decided that his own interpretation of God is better than the Bible's description of Him.

                    http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?9091...light=Rob+Bell

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                    • she say her and her husband love his books
                      You should ask them if they love his books even more than HIS book. Then show them where his books are differing from what God's word actually says, and why that is going to lead them down a very broad path which leads to destruction. (That part will take research and study ahead of time on your part. But it will be a rewarding, worthwhile study.)

                      When confronted with the truth of the Bible and how it differs so drastically from what Bell is saying it says, they will at that point have to make a decision which will, in my opinion, be equivocal almost to denying Christ. And willfully, at that. Of course that is just my opinion.

                      Every person has to make their own decision about what to read and follow, and I have chosen that Rob Bell's fictional non-fiction just doesn't belong on the same shelf as God's Word.

                      Praying for your success.

                      Scott
                      The Road To New Jerusalem

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                      • He is a massively destructive figure, and his message is damnable.

                        meetuinthesky, I sent a PM for you with some links. Let me know if they help.
                        There is One King, and He is not this guy. sigpic

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                        • Originally posted by billiefan2000 View Post
                          As I sat back and enjoyed the PBS special that Sunday afternoon, I couldn't stop thinking that these wonderfully gifted performers, this family that I had grown up with, would die and end up forever in hell for following the lies of a murdering pedophile named Joseph Smith.
                          WHOA! WHOA! Hold the phone!

                          I've never heard of Smith being a murderer or a pedophile before. I don't totally doubt this, but what is your source?

                          I know he was a wacko but don't know too much else.

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                          • thank you all for your replies. this is very upseting to me and i am worried for my daughter. she does not want to talk to me about it, so i really dont know what to do. Elizabeth
                            sigpic Be still and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth! Psalm46:10

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                            • Originally posted by meetuinthesky View Post
                              thank you all for your replies. this is very upseting to me and i am worried for my daughter. she does not want to talk to me about it, so i really dont know what to do. Elizabeth
                              You can "pull rank" by praying for her. Once you've presented the evidence to her, it's her decision to choose either the Bible, or Rob Bell. Make it clear that it has to be one or the other, because the two simply aren't compatible.

                              Then pray, pray, pray. Step back and let the Holy Spirit do His work.

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                              • In April 1841, Smith secretly wed Louisa Beaman as a plural wife, and during the next two and a half years he may have married thirty additional women,[243] ten of whom were already married to other men,[244] and about a third of them teenagers, including two fourteen-year-old girls.[245] Meanwhile he publicly and repeatedly denied that he advocated polygamy.[246] Smith told at least some of his potential wives that marriage to him would ensure their spiritual exaltation.
                                The above referenced quote is taken from Wikipedia talking about Joseph Smith. Someone about five or six post up said they had never heard of Smith being a murderer or pedophile so I went to look and found this....interesting reading.

                                Who on earth would want to put up with thirty plus wives....

                                Scott
                                The Road To New Jerusalem

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